CIA plan to influence European opinion leaked

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HisMajestyBOB

#30
April 01, 2010, 10:02:59 PM
After thinking on it a bit, it struck me that this may have been an intentional leak.
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jimmy olsen

#31
April 01, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
What are the benefits in doing so?
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Razgovory

#32
April 02, 2010, 04:05:50 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
What are the benefits in doing so?

CIA guys don't have to do something now which lightens their work load.
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Martinus

#33
April 02, 2010, 04:10:52 AM
I know it's a novel idea, but what do you guys think about this being leaked on purpose? Too far-fetched?

Iormlund

#34
April 02, 2010, 05:38:45 AM
The US gave the impression that Afghanistan didn't matter when it decided to shift focus to Irak. There's no way of fixing that now.

Admiral Yi

#35
April 02, 2010, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
What are the benefits in doing so?
You get the benefits of feedback without losing face if it turns out to be an unpopular idea.  Also known as running it up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes.

Agelastus

#36
April 02, 2010, 06:17:40 AM
I actually missed Yi's post. :Embarrass:

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
What are the benefits in doing so?

In particular I would note that of all the European nations committed to Afghanistan, it only mentions France and Germany in relation to the withdrawal of the Netherlands. In particular, Italy, an equvalent contributor, is not mentioned.

It strokes the ego of both the French and the Germans; Sarkozy and Merkel can imagine they are more important to the USA than Brown or Berlusconi (when in reality, all four are equally unimportant.) It also makes them think their troops are more valued than those of other nations. It also strokes the ego of the general public in the two nations, now it has been released. The suggestions themselves are fairly innocuous, and the wording suggests that most of these are suggestions to be passed on to the two relevant governments, not to be carried out by the CIA itself. In fact, the wording seems deliberately ambiguous in places, although that may simply be "officialspeak".

I suspect this is just one part of a calculated package to keep the Germans and French "on-side" this year.
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Siege

#37
April 02, 2010, 07:13:45 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.

Exactly my thoughts.

Could this leak be part of the plan?



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Jaron

#38
April 03, 2010, 05:44:59 PM
Guys, I think they leaked this on purpose.
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MadImmortalMan

#39
April 06, 2010, 12:09:45 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on April 02, 2010, 05:38:45 AM
The US gave the impression that Afghanistan didn't matter when it decided to shift focus to Irak. There's no way of fixing that now.

If it can shift one way, it can shift the other.
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Razgovory

#40
April 06, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 02, 2010, 07:13:45 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.

Exactly my thoughts.

Could this leak be part of the plan?

You aren't paid to think.  You're paid to take bullets.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

#41
April 06, 2010, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 31, 2010, 07:52:18 PM
And that 50 year string of CIA incompetence continues. Can't they do anything right?
They recently successfully managed the defection of an apparently senior Iranian nuclear scientist.  But aside from that...
Let's bomb Russia!
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