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CIA plan to influence European opinion leaked

Started by jimmy olsen, March 31, 2010, 07:52:18 PM

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Martinus

#15
April 01, 2010, 05:21:05 AM
That's what you get for letting Mormons and Evangelicals run your PR, people.

Get more gays in the CIA. :P

Razgovory

#16
April 01, 2010, 06:20:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 01, 2010, 05:21:05 AM
That's what you get for letting Mormons and Evangelicals run your PR, people.

Get more gays in the CIA. :P

We elected a gay guy as President once.  Our country fell into civil war.
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Neil

#17
April 01, 2010, 08:08:02 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 01, 2010, 06:20:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 01, 2010, 05:21:05 AM
That's what you get for letting Mormons and Evangelicals run your PR, people.

Get more gays in the CIA. :P

We elected a gay guy as President once.  Our country fell into civil war.
Even Martinus wouldn't suggest that gays are fit for leadership roles.  Their inherent selfishness makes that impossible. 
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MadImmortalMan

#18
April 01, 2010, 11:13:48 AM
What's the problem? That it leaked? Seems like a good idea.
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derspiess

#19
April 01, 2010, 12:53:26 PM
Quote from: Fate on March 31, 2010, 08:24:39 PM
How do you distinguish between the CIA sitting on its ass doing nothing and getting something right? :rolleyes:

You don't.  I'm just saying its relative effectiveness should not be judged on well-publicized (and often exaggerated) blunders, given that the other side of the equation is less publicly known. 
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Malthus

#20
April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.
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derspiess

#21
April 01, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.

It involves the CIA.  But seriously, as inocuous as it may seem, it's red meat for anti-Americans & conspiracy nutters.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

grumbler

#22
April 01, 2010, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 31, 2010, 09:39:49 PM
The main goal was Bin Laden and they failed.
No, that wasn't the main goal at all.  You are arguing the equivalent of "the purpose of the US WW2 military in Europe was the capture of Adolph Hitler and they failed."
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grumbler

#23
April 01, 2010, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.
Nothing.  This is non-news, brought to you by an outraged Timmay.  SSDD.
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jimmy olsen

#24
April 01, 2010, 06:57:19 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.
It doesn't offend me. The fact that it leaked is what pisses me off, that's gonna cause blowback.
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Sheilbh

#25
April 01, 2010, 07:08:46 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2010, 06:57:19 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.
It doesn't offend me. The fact that it leaked is what pisses me off, that's gonna cause blowback.
:lol: European blowback largely consists of a few sharp words at dinner parties across the continent.  You should, however, be more careful in more excitable areas of the world :P
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Admiral Yi

#26
April 01, 2010, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2010, 06:57:19 PM
It doesn't offend me. The fact that it leaked is what pisses me off, that's gonna cause blowback.
This looks very much like an on purpose leak.

edit: It was classified confidential for fuck's sake.  Confidential is what they classify the lunch menu in the federal government.

Agelastus

#27
April 01, 2010, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2010, 06:57:19 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 01, 2010, 01:04:23 PM
I don't understand what is offensive about the proposed CIA plan.
It doesn't offend me. The fact that it leaked is what pisses me off, that's gonna cause blowback.

Perhaps you should consider the possibility it was leaked deliberately.
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derspiess

#28
April 01, 2010, 09:44:12 PM
You know what, guys?  I think there's a possibility this may have been leaked out on purpose.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

sbr

#29
April 01, 2010, 09:53:18 PM
A lot of times agencies leak things on purpose, I think that might be what happened here too.
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