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Started by Malthus, February 05, 2010, 10:19:37 AM

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Barrister

Quote from: Josephus on February 05, 2010, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 05, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
I personally am glad the old board died along will all the posts ever made on it.
Lest if I ever made something of my life I'd be fucked :p

Someone would have to prove Tyr is in fact you, though. I think  anything pointing to you is pretty circumstantial.

Not really.

Your IP is logged for every post.  Your IP then points to who your service provider is.

Your servioce provider in turn has records on who it's customers are, and who is using what IP at any given time.

With the appropriate court orders you can easily identify which household and which computer made any given point.

The issue can be once you've ID'd the computer, you have to figure out who used it.  But even then it can certainly be done.

How do you think we manage to get child porn convictions?   :ph34r:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

The Brain

Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2010, 10:29:18 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 10:26:24 AM
I was a regular on that board (hell, I was a mod), and even posted in the impugned thread.   :ph34r:

What happened?

:rolleyes:

WHAT HAPPEN :contract:
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

derspiess

Quote from: The Brain on February 05, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2010, 10:29:18 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 10:26:24 AM
I was a regular on that board (hell, I was a mod), and even posted in the impugned thread.   :ph34r:

What happened?

:rolleyes:

WHAT HAPPEN :contract:

SOMEONE SET UP US THE BOMB
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Barrister

Quote from: The Brain on February 05, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2010, 10:29:18 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 10:26:24 AM
I was a regular on that board (hell, I was a mod), and even posted in the impugned thread.   :ph34r:

What happened?

:rolleyes:

WHAT HAPPEN :contract:

Did you miss the long-ass post I made directly below Malthus' question?   :huh:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

garbon

Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 02:18:39 PM
Not really.

Your IP is logged for every post.  Your IP then points to who your service provider is.

Your servioce provider in turn has records on who it's customers are, and who is using what IP at any given time.

With the appropriate court orders you can easily identify which household and which computer made any given point.

The issue can be once you've ID'd the computer, you have to figure out who used it.  But even then it can certainly be done.

How do you think we manage to get child porn convictions?   :ph34r:

I don't have a service provider and yet I can post. :ph34r:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 05, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2010, 10:29:18 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 10:26:24 AM
I was a regular on that board (hell, I was a mod), and even posted in the impugned thread.   :ph34r:

What happened?

:rolleyes:

WHAT HAPPEN :contract:

Did you miss the long-ass post I made directly below Malthus' question?   :huh:

FFS it was only zero score and seven years ago that the Portuguese Jew wrote it in the stab thread.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Barrister

Garbo, yes there are ways to avoid being tracked - proxy servers, wifi connections.  But most people don't do that.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valdemar

Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: Josephus on February 05, 2010, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 05, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
I personally am glad the old board died along will all the posts ever made on it.
Lest if I ever made something of my life I'd be fucked :p

Someone would have to prove Tyr is in fact you, though. I think  anything pointing to you is pretty circumstantial.

Not really.

Your IP is logged for every post.  Your IP then points to who your service provider is.

Your servioce provider in turn has records on who it's customers are, and who is using what IP at any given time.

With the appropriate court orders you can easily identify which household and which computer made any given point.

The issue can be once you've ID'd the computer, you have to figure out who used it.  But even then it can certainly be done.

How do you think we manage to get child porn convictions?   :ph34r:

Child porn, and possibly other heavy duty crimes have international agreemetns that will accept court orders across nation state borders.. I doubt infamatory statements will be accepted as reason to open up foreign registers at ISPs

V

garbon

Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Garbo, yes there are ways to avoid being tracked - proxy servers, wifi connections.  But most people don't do that.

A lot of city dwellers do though. The cafes here are always packed with people using the wireless.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

DGuller

Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 12:52:05 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 05, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Would any of this actually hold up in court?

Doesn't matter.  It'll cost you a lot of money to actually fight it in court.
Which is, more than anything, what makes people lose faith in the legal system.  How effective is the protection of one's rights if you need to bankrupt yourself to do it?

Malthus

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 12:52:05 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 05, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Would any of this actually hold up in court?

Doesn't matter.  It'll cost you a lot of money to actually fight it in court.
Which is, more than anything, what makes people lose faith in the legal system.  How effective is the protection of one's rights if you need to bankrupt yourself to do it?

In Canada this is offset to an extent by cost rules, but still - lose faith compared with what? The alternative if you have a serious dispute with someone is ... ?
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

dps

Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Garbo, yes there are ways to avoid being tracked - proxy servers, wifi connections.  But most people don't do that.

A lot of city dwellers do though. The cafes here are always packed with people using the wireless.

Libraries, too.  A while back I needed to print something off the net, but my printer was messed up.  Not having the time at the moment to try and figure out what the printer's problem was and then fix it, and not wanting to buy a new printer if it was something easily fixable like needing to download a driver or something, I decided to go to the local public library and download and print the documents there.  All their computers were already in use (I got there about 10 minutes after they opened), and there was also already like a 3-hour waiting list.