State of the Union thread

[Ed Anger]

Your kid is a free trader? Wow, talk about precocious...

Yeah, he won't shut up about Canadian logging subsidies.

[Valmy]

He ought to be trying to shame his own party!   

That would be awesome!  Remember when those ads were running during the Bush administration comparing RINOs to France?

[Razgovory]

Went on about 20 minutes to long.  I feel his efforts to shame the Republicans are futile.  They seem to lack any type of shame.

He's been using that tactic for a while now, and it still doesn't work so well. The Dems are running the roost, doing business as usual but even more so, which is what has voters so angry! Especially when Obama promised CHANGE! He ought to be trying to shame his own party!   

What is "business as usual" in this case?

[KRonn]

Went on about 20 minutes to long.  I feel his efforts to shame the Republicans are futile.  They seem to lack any type of shame.

He's been using that tactic for a while now, and it still doesn't work so well. The Dems are running the roost, doing business as usual but even more so, which is what has voters so angry! Especially when Obama promised CHANGE! He ought to be trying to shame his own party!   

What is "business as usual" in this case?

Government deficits, multitudes of pork deals, even so embarrassing now that the Congressmembers getting them are feeling much heat, from their own states. , Obama said from day one that he was going to address all of that. Closed door meetings, dealing heavily with lobbyists and various interests when he promised change to that process. Congress doing its wheeling and dealing, all the dealing with the concoction of the health care bill, smoke and mirrors accounting for it, which has people pretty damned angry. And more. Business hasn't seemed to have changed at all; gotten worse. Some they can't change too much, as there will always be special interests, but when a President promises change and does things the same, with an over bearing Congressional leadership like Pelosi and Reid, it catches up with the President pretty fast.

[MadImmortalMan]

Found a couple of places, but what should interest people here is that Obama is going to ask for Don't Ask Don't Tell to be repealed according to a rumor sweeping the net.

EDIT: Can't he just do that by an executive decision like Truman?

I missed the speech. Did he do it?

[DontSayBanana]

I missed the speech. Did he do it?

The only time an executive order was mentioned was when Obama blacked on the Senate about voting down Biden's task force and told them he'd do it anyway via executive order.  I also counted no less than four veto threats to both houses, but his hands are pretty tied where DADT is concerned; military regulations are explicitly delegated to Congress by the US Constitution.

[Hansmeister]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

[Grallon]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

What an actor you'd make!  You've got the outrage down pat.



G.

[Valmy]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

Weren't you the one smearing the court as unelected God-Emperors who need to be reigned in?

[DontSayBanana]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

Weren't you the one smearing the court as unelected God-Emperors who need to be reigned in?

Shush.  If it's Obama doing it, it's automatically wrong to Hans.  If Obama had said "1+1=2," Hans would probably have gone into a tirade about Euclidean mathematics.

[Admiral Yi]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

What did he say about the Supreme Court?

[Viking]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

Weren't you the one smearing the court as unelected God-Emperors who need to be reigned in?

Shush.  If it's Obama doing it, it's automatically wrong to Hans.  If Obama had said "1+1=2," Hans would probably have gone into a tirade about Euclidean mathematics.

Well, 1+1=3 for large values of 1.

[derspiess]

Weren't you the one smearing the court as unelected God-Emperors who need to be reigned in?

I think Hans's point is that the State of the Union speech was not the appropriate place & time to do this.

[derspiess]

he certainly proved he lacked any class, particularly when he launched a dishonest political attack against the Supreme Court.  He comes across as petulant, peeved, and nasty.

What did he say about the Supreme Court?

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6148956n&tag=api

Stay classy, Barry

[Admiral Yi]

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6148956n&tag=api

Stay classy, Barry

Dialup.

Can you execsum me baby?