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Started by Faeelin, January 09, 2010, 04:11:32 PM

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Ed Anger

I want to get involved in the spat.

But I can't think of anything, so I'm Stalin for time.
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Ed Anger

I apologize for my previous post. that was awful.
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Martinus

Why does anyone even bother to argue with grumbler anymore? It's not like you guys are new to Languish.  :huh:

Razgovory

I don't know what Gardner's intelligences thingy is but I do know he actually wrote a paper on linguistics.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on January 10, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
Why does anyone even bother to argue with grumbler anymore? It's not like you guys are new to Languish.  :huh:

Same reason people argue with you, to pass the time.
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grumbler

Quote from: Ed Anger on January 10, 2010, 03:36:38 PM
I apologize for my previous post. that was awful.
It fit right in, then!  :cool:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Martinus on January 10, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
Why does anyone even bother to argue with grumbler anymore? It's not like you guys are new to Languish.  :huh:

I'm not arguing with Grumbler.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

This thread reminds me of a family episode a while back.  We used to have a relative that was a vulgar piece of shit.  He had no redeeming qualities about himself.  For the next family meeting, my grandma's sister resolved to give that POS a piece of her mind.  Unfortunately, she was so ready to unload that she went prematurely.  She blew up during one of the few times where the guy's behavior was not objectionable.

It seems like Syt was so ready to denounce grumbler that he went before grumbler really started acting like grumbler.

PDH

I would like to say that I am arguing with everyone here.
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MadImmortalMan

Actually, I'm a bit interested in this book declaring Stalin an intellectual. It goes very much against my impression of the man. What does it say?
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BuddhaRhubarb

I'm assuming he was kind of a douchebag.
:p

ulmont

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 10, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Actually, I'm a bit interested in this book declaring Stalin an intellectual. It goes very much against my impression of the man. What does it say?

That Stalin read a lot of history and literature on his own.

"a nervy intellectual who manically read history and literature" (p.6)

"Constantly reading in his huge library, educating himself with Tsarist history textbooks (and the novels of Balzac and Dickens)" (p.63)

See also Chapter 7 - "Stalin the Intellectual"
http://www.amazon.com/Stalin-Court-Simon-Sebag-Montefiore/dp/1400076781/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263162695&sr=8-1#reader_1400076781

Razgovory

Hitler read quite bit on his own as well but nobody would have mistaken him for an "intellectual".  Something that was sore spot for him as well.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on January 10, 2010, 06:10:10 PM
Hitler read quite bit on his own as well but nobody would have mistaken him for an "intellectual".  Something that was sore spot for him as well.

Hitler was too busy ranting about fonts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDiDATbIG-o
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