Cao Cao's Tomb Discovered!

[Drakken]

I saw this on the news yesterday and thought it rather cool and geekish that we had a news announcer speaking of Romance of the Three Kingdoms- the only thing it being known for over here of course being Dynasty Warriors.
I must bitch about Chinese language here though; on the news they were pronouncing it Sow Sow. I always thought it was Cow Cow.

Only ignorant Western KOEI players pronounce it Cow Cow, to the annoyance of Chinese speakers. In fact, it's Tsao Tsao.

Worse is Cao Pi, or Cow Pee (should be Tsao Pei).

[Habbaku]

Is Cow Pie or Cow Pee worse?

[Razgovory]

Is Cow Pie or Cow Pee worse?

Cow Pie.  You step in Cow Pee and it doesn't stick to your shoe as much.

[Josquius]

Only ignorant Western KOEI players pronounce it Cow Cow, to the annoyance of Chinese speakers. In fact, it's Tsao Tsao.

Worse is Cao Pi, or Cow Pee (should be Tsao Pei).

Why do Koei do Cow though? Just idiocy or is it the Japanese way- researching myself it seems the Cantonese say something totally different to Tsao.
Chinese spelling, bah. If its not righting chee qi its ts as c

[DisturbedPervert]

Only ignorant Western KOEI players pronounce it Cow Cow, to the annoyance of Chinese speakers. In fact, it's Tsao Tsao.

Worse is Cao Pi, or Cow Pee (should be Tsao Pei).

If they care how foreigners pronounce it when reading the romanization, they should use a transliteration system that allows others to read it properly.  You can't blame people for seeing Cáo Cāo and not saying Tsao Tsao.

[DisturbedPervert]

Why do Koei do Cow though?

Because the name written in Pinyin is Cáo Cāo

[MadImmortalMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtP5fcBhaE


BBC reporters pronouncing it wrong, but hey.

[Razgovory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtP5fcBhaE


BBC reporters pronouncing it wrong, but hey.

Actually the pronounce it correctly, the Chinese pronounce it wrong.  If the Chinese won the Opium wars it would be the other way around.

[Josquius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtP5fcBhaE


BBC reporters pronouncing it wrong, but hey.

How is that wrong? Its Tsao.

[The Brain]

Daddy wouldn't buy me a Cao Cao.

[Syt]

Daddy wouldn't buy me a Cao Cao.

Kakao!

[MadImmortalMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtP5fcBhaE


BBC reporters pronouncing it wrong, but hey.

How is that wrong? Its Tsao.

Is it right? I watched with the sound off, but the comments said it was wrong. Maybe that was Raz.

[Jacob]

I must bitch about Chinese language here though; on the news they were pronouncing it Sow Sow. I always thought it was Cow Cow.

Pinyin, the currently used for rendering Chinese into the Roman alphabet, was apparently developed with Russian sensibilities.  In English, the closest spelling would probably be Tsao Tsao.

[Camerus]

I saw this on the news yesterday and thought it rather cool and geekish that we had a news announcer speaking of Romance of the Three Kingdoms- the only thing it being known for over here of course being Dynasty Warriors.
I must bitch about Chinese language here though; on the news they were pronouncing it Sow Sow. I always thought it was Cow Cow.

Only ignorant Western KOEI players pronounce it Cow Cow, to the annoyance of Chinese speakers. In fact, it's Tsao Tsao.

Worse is Cao Pi, or Cow Pee (should be Tsao Pei).

No, Pi  (pronounced "Pee") is correct.

[Camerus]

Anyway, once you get used to pinyin, it turns out to be quite an efficient and easy-to-read Romanization of the language, and much better than Wide-Giles.

But of course like any language, certain letter combinations might have different sounds than in English.  Thus in German for example, "St" at the start of a word such as "Stadt" in German produces a sound like "Shtadt" in English, etc.  It's the same with pinyin.