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PBEM Ethical Question

Started by sbr, December 24, 2009, 03:51:35 PM

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sbr

Maybe ethical is the wrong word, but I am curious how you feel about asking an opponent to replay a turn. 

I am playing a TOAW3 scenario with a guy from Paradox; I don't know him well, the only interaction we have had is in this game.  We are both new to TOAW and this is my first PBEM game of any sort and I know it is his first TOAW PBEM.

Here's the deal, we are playing the Fall Grun 1938 scenario with me as Germany; the scenario starts with us at peace.  We each made our first turns, then I screwed up on my second.  When my turn started we were still at peace, most of my units were in place; I moved maybe 10% of my 250+ units, then dug the rest in.  When I was finished I saved the game as a regular save, not the save I email.  Somehow or another I screwed something up and lost that save so I had to replay my entire turn, which was easy since I had so little to do.  I loaded the save, made all of the same moves, quit the game and sent it to my opponent.  The problem is I didn't notice that the second time I started the game a random event caused the war to start.  So I wasted an entire turn of being at war by doing nothing.  On my third turn both UK and France DOWed me, I don't know if they would have anyway, or just did it because I did so little the first turn at war.

When he sent the save back to me he mentioned that we were at war, which I thought was strange as I assumed that war would start on my turn, not his.  He didn't do anything other than move a few units and take some artillery shots at me on his turn. 

What do you think, should I just bite the bullet and go with it or would asking about a redo be acceptable?

Tamas


dps

If it was someone I knew, I think I'd explain the situation and ask for a re-do.  With a stranger, I'd bite the bullet.

You might just send him a message to the effect of, "Fuck, I missed seeing the random event.  Oh well, I'll just have to live with having wasted a turn" and he mght offer you a re-do.

Admiral Yi

It's like taking a mulligan when you shank your first tee shot.  You're not cheating, you're conceding the entire match and starting over. 

katmai

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The Brain

Post something funny on Youtube and link it in this thread.
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Syt

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sbr

I never really had any thought of asking for a redo but it seemed an interesting enough topic of conversation to start a thread about, especially as I am new to the world of MP PC games.

I was going to send him a message telling him what I did wrong, then I realized he might offer to either start over, or redo the turn, and that I didn't want to put him in that position.  Hopefully I didn't fuck myself over too bad.

@The Brain - I have never posted anything on YouTube, and hopefully I can say that the rest of my life :fingerscrossed:, but this amuses me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY

The Brain

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sbr

It ended up not mattering at all.  My opponent conceded on the 13th (out of 20) turn with me holding all of the VP hexes and having destroyed a huge part of the Czech army.  :showoff: