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Started by Savonarola, December 24, 2009, 11:45:05 AM

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The first time that you saw ESB did you believe Darth Vader when he told Luke he was Luke's father

Yes
32 (74.4%)
Nooooooo!
11 (25.6%)

Total Members Voted: 42

Savonarola

I read on IMDB that Lucas consulted with a child psychologist who told him that unless it was explicitly spelled out for younger viewers that Darth Vader was Luke's father they would assume that Darth Vader was lying.  This is why there is the scene in Jedi where Luke consults Yoda about his parentage.  Knowing the majority of the forum was probably quite young when they saw Empire Strikes Back I'm curious how many people thought Darth was lying.

I was seven when I first saw ESB in the theaters when it was first released and I remember I thought Darth was lying.
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Monoriu

I felt the same way.  Actually, the first time I saw the movie, I thought it existed in an alternative universe, because there was no way the good guys would lose  :lol:

sbr

I think I was 9 (ESB was released in 1980 right?) and was sure he was lying.  I mean he had to be, there is no way that Vader is Luke's father.

Savonarola

Quote from: sbr on December 24, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
I think I was 9 (ESB was released in 1980 right?) and was sure he was lying.  I mean he had to be, there is no way that Vader is Luke's father.

According to IMDB, Empire Strikes Back was released May 21, 1980.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

katmai

How can Mark Hamill be the son of James Earl Jones, of course I thought he was lying!
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katmai

Quote from: sbr on December 24, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
I think I was 9 (ESB was released in 1980 right?) and was sure he was lying.  I mean he had to be, there is no way that Vader is Luke's father.

1977 SW
1980 ESB
1983 RotJ
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

katmai

Quote from: Savonarola on December 24, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on December 24, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
I think I was 9 (ESB was released in 1980 right?) and was sure he was lying.  I mean he had to be, there is no way that Vader is Luke's father.

According to IMDB, Empire Strikes Back was released May 21, 1980.

Yep saw it for my 7th birthday party.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

sbr

Quote from: Savonarola on December 24, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: sbr on December 24, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
I think I was 9 (ESB was released in 1980 right?) and was sure he was lying.  I mean he had to be, there is no way that Vader is Luke's father.

According to IMDB, Empire Strikes Back was released May 21, 1980.

Thanks, that's what I thought, I turned 10 in September.

Ed Anger

Quote from: katmai on December 24, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
How can Mark Hamill be the son of James Earl Jones, of course I thought he was lying!

yankees and their race mixing. Mew.
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Lucidor

Quote from: Ed Anger on December 24, 2009, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 24, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
How can Mark Hamill be the son of James Earl Jones, of course I thought he was lying!

yankees and their race mixing. Mew.
Forgot to log out and back in with your sock, dude... ;)

MadImmortalMan

I didn't doubt Vader. I was 4 when it came out, but I'm sure I didn't see it until later.
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BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: katmai on December 24, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
How can Mark Hamill be the son of James Earl Jones, of course I thought he was lying!

David Prowse did all the physical stuff. :contract:  JEJ just provided "The Voice".

But yeah I figured at the time (I was 13) that it would turn out to be true somehow. And as we found out years later Luke's whinyness was genetic. as Young Vader made Luke seem stoic by comparison.
:p

katmai

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Josephus

I guess I was 14 or so.

I can't remember what I thought. I was 14. I think, though, I saw it a week after it opened, so the secret was out already.
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