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Started by Josquius, December 22, 2009, 01:08:52 PM

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Josquius

This is pretty unexpected, they've always talked about just staying independant and were more Russia friendly than EU...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8425407.stm

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Serbia submits EU membership application
Serbian President Boris Tadic (left) hands over application to join EU to Swedish PM Fredrik Reinfeldt, 22 Dec 09
Serbia's President Tadic (left) handed over the application in Stockholm

Serbia has formally submitted its application to join the 27-nation EU, in a move to end years of isolation.

President Boris Tadic handed over the application in Stockholm to Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt of Sweden, current holder of the EU presidency.

The EU recently unfroze a free trade agreement with Belgrade.

But Serbia still has to cross a major hurdle - the capture of two remaining war fugitives, before membership negotiations will begin in earnest.

Visa-free travel

Serbia feels it has built up a certain momentum on its path to the EU in the past few weeks, the BBC's Belgrade correspondent Mark Lowen says.
   
ANALYSIS
Mark Lowen, BBC
By Mark Lowen, BBC Belgrade correspondent

It was Serbia that decided this was the right time to apply, but some countries - notably the Netherlands and the UK - think it is premature...

The authorities in Belgrade feel strongly that the momentum of the last few weeks needs to be kept up.

Opinion polls suggest overwhelming Serb support for joining the EU, at 60-70%. But a majority also opposes the hunt for Gen Mladic, seeing him as a national hero.

An important trade pact with the bloc has now come into force and since 19 December Serbs have enjoyed visa-free travel to most EU countries.

But Serbia's attempts to gain membership have been hampered by concerns, particularly in the Netherlands, over its failure to capture the two remaining war fugitives indicted by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), based in The Hague.

Chief among them is the former Bosnian Serb military commander, Ratko Mladic.

Earlier this month the UN's chief war crimes prosecutor said Serbia's co-operation with ICTY was "progressing". Belgrade has handed over all the necessary documents.

However, in his report to the UN, Serge Brammertz said Serbia must continue searching for both Gen Mladic and Goran Hadzic, who is wanted for war crimes in Croatia.

Long road ahead

Belgrade is now pinning its hopes on the next report by the chief prosecutor, expected in June.

If that proves a positive assessment of Serbia's hunt for the fugitives, the Dutch may be persuaded to soften and allow the next stage of the application process to move forward.
Ratko Mladic
Ratko Mladic is thought to be in hiding in Serbia

Our correspondent says a long road lies ahead: it is likely to take at least four years before the hand of EU membership extends to Serbia.

Slovenia is the only former Yugoslav republic to have joined the EU so far. That took place in 2004, and its neighbour Croatia is on track to be the next to join, in 2011 or 2012.

It was Serbia that decided this was the right time to apply, but some countries - notably the Netherlands and the UK - think it is premature, our correspondent reports. They believe Serbia should have waited for its Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA) with the EU to be ratified.

The authorities in Belgrade feel strongly that the momentum of the last few weeks needs to be kept up, Mark Lowen says.

Opinion polls suggest overwhelming Serb support for joining the EU, at 60-70%. But a majority also opposes the hunt for Gen Mladic, seeing him as a national hero.

The granting of visa-free travel to Serbs does not apply to those living in Kosovo.

The territory's independence declaration is not recognised by Serbia, but neither do five EU member states recognise it, so that is not officially an obstacle to Serbia joining the EU, our correspondent says.

Serbia has signed a security co-operation agreement with Eulex, the EU police and justice mission in Kosovo. But Belgrade is treading carefully, conscious that Serb nationalists feel their country's interests were betrayed in Kosovo.

By forming closer links with Serbia and encouraging reforms there the EU is showing it is serious about Serbia's membership bid, our correspondent adds.

It is also a way of keeping together a region that is still quite fragile after the wars of the 1990s, he says.
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Tamas

 :huh: They have been aiming for this ever since they kicked Milosevic out. Hardly surprising.

KRonn

Good for Serbia... I think so anyway. 

Neil

It's not like the Serbs can't remain pro-Russian while continuing to accept EU welfare.
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Warspite

This was always going to happen, especially in the wake of the Tadic victory. Most Serbs, especially the young, want to align with the West, not Russia.

The big question is going to be how the issue of Kosovo's status is resolved once and for all. A number of EU states refuse to recognise an independent Kosovo.
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Bluebook

Quote from: Warspite on December 22, 2009, 02:11:06 PM
A number of EU states refuse to recognise an independent Kosovo.

Its probably because they think UN-controlled protectorates are soo 20th century.

Alexandru H.

I'd love to see Serbia in EU and Kosovo out, as any muslim european country deserves...  :cool:

Valmy

Quote from: Warspite on December 22, 2009, 02:11:06 PM
A number of EU states refuse to recognise an independent Kosovo.

Probably because the whole idea was idiotic...yes I know my country is primarily responsible for it.
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AnchorClanker

Quote from: Valmy on December 22, 2009, 03:32:07 PM
Quote from: Warspite on December 22, 2009, 02:11:06 PM
A number of EU states refuse to recognise an independent Kosovo.

Probably because the whole idea was idiotic...yes I know my country is primarily responsible for it.

Yep.  The ghost of Wilson.  No good the first time around - no good the second and subsequent.
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Caliga

Should it be annexed by: Albania.
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The Brain

Keep the Serbs out, the Russians out and the Turks out. The Axis of Fail can form their own union.
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The Brain

Quote from: Caliga on December 22, 2009, 04:06:00 PM
Should it be annexed by: Albania.

Are you talking about America?
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Caliga

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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on December 22, 2009, 04:06:00 PM
Should it be annexed by: Albania.

There is nothing that can be done now they are independent.  We just have to make do but we just made the situation worse.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Caliga

Could we kill all the Kosovars?  No Kosovars, no problem.
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