Stocks and Trading Thread - Channeling your inner Mono

Started by MadImmortalMan, December 21, 2009, 04:32:41 AM

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MadImmortalMan

Oh, it's $9.99 plus $.75 per contract for options on TDA (including multi-option trade like a strangle). If you exercise, there's a $20 fee.

http://www.tdameritrade.com/pricing.html

Futures - $3.50 per contract.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 08, 2011, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 08, 2011, 09:24:49 AM
What's the juice on derivatives, if bought on individual level?  Derivative market doesn't exactly strike me as frictionless.

Not sure.  I would guess around $20 trade.  MIM?

There's no casino game where you can pay $20 to buy an even money bet.
If you pay to get an even money bet, then you're not really getting an even money bet.  Paying the fees and bid/ask spread is equivalent to spotting the casino an edge in a bet.  In both cases, your expected return is negative.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on September 08, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
If you pay to get an even money bet, then you're not really getting an even money bet.  Paying the fees and bid/ask spread is equivalent to spotting the casino an edge in a bet.  In both cases, your expected return is negative.

No shit Shylock.  :lol:

MadImmortalMan

Well, it looks like I was a bit hasty covering my short. I should have listened to my own advice. Could have made a couple hundred bucks more than I did. My GLD calls are skyrocketing though.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Grey Fox

Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

MadImmortalMan

Man. I wish I had listened to my own advice and held my puts until after the speech.  :lol:
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers


Tamas

Sadly they fucked up my shorts earlier this week, so this dive-bombing is only enough to cover those losses.

Tamas

BTW I am planning to keep my SP500 short on for the weekend. Just in case an anniversary terror plot succeeds :P

Ed Anger

Quote from: Tamas on September 09, 2011, 11:53:44 AM
BTW I am planning to keep my SP500 short on for the weekend. Just in case an anniversary terror plot succeeds :P

You might see a patriotic bounce if the shit hits the fan.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

MadImmortalMan

#687
I think we're going to drift a little up. I'm trying a small daytrade with SPY calls.





Greece says they are going to be able to fully implement their bailout agreement and will definitely not default.  :shutup:



Edit: And just like that, one of the Fed's peeps says QE3 would be a good idea. Here we go.  :lol:


Edit2: Calls keep flirting with stopping out at the breakeven point. Float over. I'm selling them before the close in any case.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers


Tamas