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Started by jimmy olsen, December 16, 2009, 07:04:20 PM

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jimmy olsen

We're getting so close to finding the grail.  :cool:

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/41258
QuoteIs exoplanet a 'waterworld'?

Dec 16, 2009

A distant waterworld?

The best evidence yet of a planet beyond our solar system that is about the same size and temperature as the Earth has been released by a team of international astronomers. Preliminary measurements of the exoplanet's temperature, mass and radius suggest that it made almost entirely of liquid water – although it could have a small rocky core.

The exoplanet is called GJ 1214b and was spotted by David Charbonneau and colleagues at Harvard University along with researchers in the US, Denmark, Switzerland and France.

GJ 1214b circles a nearby "M dwarf" star that is much smaller than our Sun. The exoplanet is about 2.5 times the diameter of Earth and about 6.5 times Earth's mass.

It orbits its star once every 1.6 days at a distance of about 15 stellar radii. The Earth, by contrast, is about 215 solar radii from the Sun.
Liquid planet

Together, these parameters suggest that GJ 1214b has the same density of water – and Charbonneau told physicsworld.com that it is very likely that the exoplanet is made entirely of liquid water.

The team believes that the surface temperature of the exoplanet is somewhere between 120 and 280 °C. While this is well above the boiling point of water on Earth, Charbonneau says that the higher gravitational field – and hence pressure – would ensure liquid water.

Another possibility is that the planet has a small rocky core surrounded by a massive water ocean and finally an outer atmosphere of hydrogen and helium. However, this view cannot be verified because the team has not been able to study the composition of the planet in any detail.

That would require the use of a space telescope such as Hubble to look for tiny absorption and emission lines in starlight that passes through the exoplanet's atmosphere on its way to Earth. Charbonneau and colleagues have applied for time on Hubble and hope to do such a study next year.
Off the shelf

Although expensive instruments like Hubble will be required to learn more about GJ 1214b, the planet was in fact discovered using an array of eight "off-the-shelf" 16-inch telescopes installed at the F L Whipple Observatory on Mt Hopkins, Arizona. Dubbed the MEarth Observatory, the telescopes are robotically controlled to systematically study known M dwarf stars, which are much smaller and dimmer than the Sun.

GJ 1214b was detected by MEarth because its star's brightness varied when measured on successive days – because some of the starlight is blocked by the exoplanet. MEarth is led by Charbonneau, who described it as a "risky thing to do". However, it appears to be worth it because GJ 1214b was discovered just three months into the planned three-year observational run.
Fantastic stuff

Frederic Pont, an astronomer at the University of Exeter in the UK, thinks that MEarth is "a fantastic project" and that the discovery of GJ 1214b is "more convincing" than that of CoRoT 7b, which is the smallest known exoplanet.

Although GJ 1214b is larger than CoRoT 7b, it is cool enough to have liquid water – an important precursor for life. In addition, the evidence for GJ 1214b is much more conclusive than CoRoT 7b, the existence of which was based on data analysis techniques that have been questioned by some astronomers.

The research is reported in Nature.
About the author

Hamish Johnston is editor of physicsworld.com
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Jacob

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
We're getting so close to finding the grail.  :cool:

What do you mean?  It's not fucking around in space, it's in Avalon, awaiting King Arthur.

Faeelin

Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
We're getting so close to finding the grail.  :cool:

What do you mean?  It's not fucking around in space, it's in Avalon, awaiting King Arthur.

My understanding from Stargate is that the grail is fucking around in space, actually.

jimmy olsen

Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.

No shit sherlock.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

jimmy olsen

He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.

Meh. The temperatures are to high :(
Stonewall=Worst Mod ever

Fate

#9
The Earth has hyperthermophiles that thrive at temperatures of up to 122°C. If there is sufficient pressure to keep water in its liquid phase, I wouldn't be surprised to see life existing at even higher temperatures.

HisMajestyBOB

Is it Kevin Costner's homeworld?
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Jacob

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.

:lol:

You're a fucking retard.

PDH

Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 08:31:54 PM
You're a fucking retard.
Given enough time, everyone on this board will make this post about something tim says.
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Jacob

Quote from: PDH on December 16, 2009, 08:54:31 PMGiven enough time, everyone on this board will make this post about something tim says.

I'm pretty sure that happened back in '06.

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.
How do you determine if a planet harbours life?
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