Finnish Winter War 70 years

[Brezel]

Actually, the Red Army stopped because the Finns asked for peace and accepted all demands - if you recall, Marshal Mannerheim had told the Germans that if they retreated from Estonia, then Helsinki would make peace, regardless of terms.

That was indeed a good way to stop the Red Army - you gave Moscow what it asked for.

Sigh.
I'm sure you know Moscow initially asked for complete disarmament and unconditional surrender. It wasn't until the halt of the offensive on Karelian Isthmus that acceptable conditions were offered. Finland's army was in relatively good condition before the truce. Soviet offensive was brought to halt in battle.

[Valmy]

I'm sure you know Moscow initially asked for complete disarmament and unconditional surrender.

I really don't think he cares.

[Lucidor]

And how do you get 200 kills with a SMG as a sniper?  I can see getting 500 kills with a rifle without getting shot, but 200 kills with a SMG sounds like a stretch (unless he fought Russian POWs inside a camp).  It's not the kind of weapon that lets you shoot at bad guys from safe distance.

Trench raids, as well

[Mr.Penguin]

It's even more scarier when you realize what equipment they fought with 

FWIW, their locally produced small arms (which usually incorporated some captured/purchased parts) were of extremely high quality.  They took the Mosin-Nagant rifle & perfected it, resulting in the M39.

But yeah, they were light on everything else, literally having to beg, borrow & steal larger weapons.

The most numerous artillery piece they had in 1944, was the french 120mm Model 1878 de Bange gun, it had no recoil system...

[Admiral Yi]

The most numerous artillery piece they had in 1944, was the french 120mm Model 1878 de Bange gun, it had no recoil system...

Great name.

[DGuller]

And how do you get 200 kills with a SMG as a sniper?  I can see getting 500 kills with a rifle without getting shot, but 200 kills with a SMG sounds like a stretch (unless he fought Russian POWs inside a camp).  It's not the kind of weapon that lets you shoot at bad guys from safe distance.

Trench raids, as well

Would a sniper be participating in the raids or ambushes, though?

[Lucidor]

And how do you get 200 kills with a SMG as a sniper?  I can see getting 500 kills with a rifle without getting shot, but 200 kills with a SMG sounds like a stretch (unless he fought Russian POWs inside a camp).  It's not the kind of weapon that lets you shoot at bad guys from safe distance.

Trench raids, as well

Would a sniper be participating in the raids or ambushes, though?

Good point.

[jimmy olsen]

What is it about Portugal, is it something in the water?  We've had extreme right, extreme left, and extreme illiteracy all represented here.

We're still the only country in the world that applied to join the Warsaw Pact of its own volution.

(and got turned down by the USSR. Brejnev came here in person to tell us not to join. THAT was embarrassing  )

What? Portugal was an original member of NATO

[Valmy]

Would a sniper be participating in the raids or ambushes, though?

Why wouldn't he?  I mean it is not like Finland really had the manpower to specialize that much.

[jimmy olsen]

The Western Allies should have intervened. Bomb Baku! Land troops at Narvik!

[Faeelin]

The Western Allies should have intervened. Bomb Baku! Land troops at Narvik!

"And that, my children, is how Hitler won the war."

[jimmy olsen]

The Western Allies should have intervened. Bomb Baku! Land troops at Narvik!

"And that, my children, is how Hitler won the war."

I wasn't being serious, I do find it funny though that serious plans were made to do just that.

Though maybe the US would have gotten involved in the war earlier, the Congress was a lot more hostile to the Soviet Union than Nazi Germany at that point.

[Mr.Penguin]

The Western Allies should have intervened. Bomb Baku! Land troops at Narvik!

Narvik?, how is how would invading a country that has nothing to do with the conflict between the Sojvet Union and Finland in any way help Finland?...

[HisMajestyBOB]

The Western Allies should have intervened. Bomb Baku! Land troops at Narvik!

"And that, my children, is how Hitler won the war."

I wasn't being serious, I do find it funny though that serious plans were made to do just that.

Though maybe the US would have gotten involved in the war earlier, the Congress was a lot more hostile to the Soviet Union than Nazi Germany at that point.

Not only that, but the plan was to land in Narvik and advance overland to northern Sweden and occupy the iron mines. It's probably for the best that those plans were never put into action

[jimmy olsen]

The Western Allies should have intervened. Bomb Baku! Land troops at Narvik!

Narvik?, how is how would invading a country that has nothing to do with the conflict between the Sojvet Union and Finland in any way help Finland?...

Obviously the Norwegians and Swedes would welcome us with open arms for protecting them from the evil Soviet-Nazi alliance.