Euro angst is tasty

[garbon]

This is the conclusion of Obama's primary victory speech:

Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals.

I remembered this speech because because of how spectacularly it was detached from reality.

Like Fae said, already been posted.

I'm still wondering though why we are the last hope.

[DontSayBanana]

Like Fae said, already been posted.

I'm still wondering though why we are the last hope.

Still pretty sure it's an artificially high view of US citizens' political efficacy.

[Monoriu]

Only if the US manages to reduce its excessive energy consumption, commit itself to mandatory CO2 emission reduction targets and help finance the move away from oil for poorer countries, is there still a chance that countries like China and India will do the same and that a dangerous warming of the Earth can be stopped. On the weekend, Obama announced that there would be no agreement on binding rules in Copenhagen. It was the admission of a massive failing -- and the prelude to a truly dramatic phase of international climate policy.

I'd say, even if the US does all those things, the chance of China following is nil.

[Fate]

Only if the US manages to reduce its excessive energy consumption, commit itself to mandatory CO2 emission reduction targets and help finance the move away from oil for poorer countries, is there still a chance that countries like China and India will do the same and that a dangerous warming of the Earth can be stopped. On the weekend, Obama announced that there would be no agreement on binding rules in Copenhagen. It was the admission of a massive failing -- and the prelude to a truly dramatic phase of international climate policy.

I'd say, even if the US does all those things, the chance of China following is nil.

I think we'll all benefit when China's coast looks like this:


Hopefully we'll be able to sink Beijing with some more work.

[Tamas]

few hints about immigration reform.

[Monoriu]

The best strategy is for everybody else to limit their CO2 emissions, while China does nothing.  China alone will not make a difference. 

[Iormlund]

If the big players really wanted China to comply, you would have to. It'd be as easy as closing the markets to producers that do not meet certain standards.

[Tamas]

If the big players really wanted China to comply, you would have to. It'd be as easy as closing the markets to producers that do not meet certain standards.

lost votes of fanatical darkgreens < lost votes of pipple not geting their cheap chinese stuff

[Monoriu]

If the big players really wanted China to comply, you would have to. It'd be as easy as closing the markets to producers that do not meet certain standards.

And it'll be as easy as not buying any US treasury bonds to send their economy down the abyss 

[jimmy olsen]

Just remember

[alfred russel]

This is the conclusion of Obama's primary victory speech:

I quoted it earlier. 

Great minds think alike?

[garbon]

And it'll be as easy as not buying any US treasury bonds to send their economy down the abyss 

Indeed. Not very easy.

[Monoriu]

And it'll be as easy as not buying any US treasury bonds to send their economy down the abyss 

Indeed. Not very easy.

Even if the Chinese government want to comply, it'll be next to impossible to enforce.  Local governments and private firms frequently pay lip service to central government edicts, especially when their economic interests are threatened.  You can't get them to respect copyrights, and you can't make them care about global warming. 

[derspiess]

few hints about immigration reform.

Sorry, the Dems don't want to let you in.  They just want floods of Mexicans that will vote Democrat.

But I'd open the gates for you & pretty much any other Euro willing to assimilate immediately (or pre-assimilated)

[Ed Anger]

NO GYPSY!
NO!