South's declining relevence on the federal level

[Neil]

I don't think you can even grasp what I am asking for, though.

As usual, grumbler goes straight to ad homs.

[Martinus]

I think it's funny that so many people seem to be trying to conduct a reasoned discussion with someone like lettow. Internet is amazing. 

[Martinus]

Oh and btw, only individuals have rights. States, governments, churches, townships, school boards, port authorities, city police bodies etc. have powers.

[Martinus]

A serious question to lettow: could you change your avatar, please? Of all the pictures of girls available on the net, you had to pick one that shows a fugly fat girl with a lousy haircut and an expression of a mentally challenged hamster? For shame. 

[Admiral Yi]

I think it's his girl friend you fucking retard.

[katmai]

Marcin is just jealous as henhas to pay to get and affection

edit: lol Marvin, damn iPhone predictive text.

[Caliga]

I think it's his girl friend you fucking retard.

Nice, Marti. 

[Lettow77]

 Im rather fond of how the missus looks, actually.

And the avatar was a shift away from political stuff. its not all I am, you know.

[garbon]

I think it's his girl friend you fucking retard.

I'm guessing that he knew that.

[Neil]

Oh and btw, only individuals have rights. States, governments, churches, townships, school boards, port authorities, city police bodies etc. have powers.

I am a government and a church, and yet I have rights.

[Neil]

I think it's his girl friend you fucking retard.

I'm guessing that he knew that.

Yep.  Then again, if I looked like Martinus, I wouldn't be ragging on how anybody else looks.

[garbon]

Yep.  Then again, if I looked like Martinus, I wouldn't be ragging on how anybody else looks.

Fair

[grumbler]

Nevermind. I see you are not interested in reading my question for comprehension, but prefer to repeat erroneous bullshit even if it is unrelated to the question.

Well duh, it was humorous banter about those naughty Americans.

Oh. 

Perhaps you are right.

[grumbler]

You are confusing de facto control with de jure sovereignty. 

De jure sovereignty come with international recognition, which occurred in 1777.

[grumbler]

That gives the States the following rights:

1) Not to have their geographic borders rearranged without their consent;
2) Not to be invaded or have a republican form of government replaced; and
3) Not to be sued in federal court by a non-State citizen [interpreted to generally codify sovereign immunity for states].

Nope.  These are limits on Federal and individual powers.  Rights exist independent of Constitutions.  The "right" to secede is, in Constitutional terms, far more realistically a "right" than is the "right" not to have borders altered without consent from the state legislature.