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Started by stjaba, November 10, 2009, 01:28:44 AM

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/world/europe/08britain.html?em=&pagewanted=print

QuoteWho Is a Jew? Court Ruling in Britain Raises Question
By SARAH LYALL
LONDON — The questions before the judges in Courtroom No. 1 of Britain's Supreme Court were as ancient and as complex as Judaism itself.

Who is a Jew? And who gets to decide?

On the surface, the court was considering a straightforward challenge to the admissions policy of a Jewish high school in London. But the case, in which arguments concluded Oct. 30, has potential repercussions for thousands of other parochial schools across Britain. And in addressing issues at the heart of Jewish identity, it has exposed bitter divisions in Britain's community of 300,000 or so Jews, pitting members of various Jewish denominations against one another.

"This is potentially the biggest case in the British Jewish community's modern history," said Stephen Pollard, editor of the Jewish Chronicle newspaper here. "It speaks directly to the right of the state to intervene in how a religion operates."

The case began when a 12-year-old boy, an observant Jew whose father is Jewish and whose mother is a Jewish convert, applied to the school, JFS. Founded in 1732 as the Jews' Free School, it is a centerpiece of North London's Jewish community. It has around 1,900 students, but it gets far more applicants than it accepts.

Britain has nearly 7,000 publicly financed religious schools, representing Judaism as well as the Church of England, Catholicism and Islam, among others. Under a 2006 law, the schools can in busy years give preference to applicants within their own faiths, using criteria laid down by a designated religious authority.

By many standards, the JFS applicant, identified in court papers as "M," is Jewish. But not in the eyes of the school, which defines Judaism under the Orthodox definition set out by Jonathan Sacks, chief rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth. Because M's mother converted in a progressive, not an Orthodox, synagogue, the school said, she was not a Jew — nor was her son. It turned down his application.

That would have been the end of it. But M's family sued, saying that the school had discriminated against him. They lost, but the ruling was overturned by the Court of Appeal this summer.

In an explosive decision, the court concluded that basing school admissions on a classic test of Judaism — whether one's mother is Jewish — was by definition discriminatory. Whether the rationale was "benign or malignant, theological or supremacist," the court wrote, "makes it no less and no more unlawful."

The case rested on whether the school's test of Jewishness was based on religion, which would be legal, or on race or ethnicity, which would not. The court ruled that it was an ethnic test because it concerned the status of M's mother rather than whether M considered himself Jewish and practiced Judaism.

"The requirement that if a pupil is to qualify for admission his mother must be Jewish, whether by descent or conversion, is a test of ethnicity which contravenes the Race Relations Act," the court said. It added that while it was fair that Jewish schools should give preference to Jewish children, the admissions criteria must depend not on family ties, but "on faith, however defined."

The same reasoning would apply to a Christian school that "refused to admit a child on the ground that, albeit practicing Christians, the child's family were of Jewish origin," the court said.

The school appealed to the Supreme Court, which is likely to rule sometime before the end of the year.

The case's importance was driven home by the sheer number of lawyers in the courtroom last week, representing not just M's family and the school, but also the British government, the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, the United Synagogue, the British Humanist Association and the Board of Deputies of British Jews.

Meanwhile, the Court of Appeal ruling threw the school into a panicked scramble to put together a new admissions policy. It introduced a "religious practice test," in which prospective students amass points for things like going to synagogue and doing charitable work.

That has led to all sorts of awkward practical issues, said Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, because Orthodox Judaism forbids writing or using a computer on the Sabbath. That means that children who go to synagogue can't "sign in," but have to use methods like dropping prewritten postcards into boxes.

It is unclear what effect the ruling, if it is upheld, will have on other religious schools. Some Catholic schools, accustomed to using baptism as a baseline admissions criterion, are worried that they will have to adopt similar practice tests.

The case has stirred up long-simmering resentments among the leaders of different Jewish denominations, who, for starters, disagree vehemently on the definition of Jewishness. They also disagree on the issue of whether an Orthodox leader is entitled to speak for the entire community.

"Whatever happens in this case, there must be some resolution sorted out between different denominations," Mr. Benjamin said in an interview. "That the community has failed to grasp this has had the very unfortunate result of having a judgment foisted on it by a civil court."

Orthodox Jews, of course, sympathize with the school, saying that observance is no test of Jewishness, and that all that matters is whether one's mother is Jewish. So little does observance matter, in fact, that "having a ham sandwich on the afternoon of Yom Kippur doesn't make you less Jewish," Rabbi Yitzchak Schochet, chairman of the Rabbinical Council of the United Synagogue, said recently.

Lauren Lesin-Davis, chairman of the board of governors at King David, a Jewish school in Liverpool, told the BBC that the ruling violated more than 5,000 years of Jewish tradition.

"You cannot come in and start telling people how their whole lives should change, that the whole essence of their life and their religion is completely wrong," she said.

But others are in complete sympathy with M.

"How dare they question our beliefs and our Jewishness?" David Lightman, an observant Jewish father whose daughter was also denied a place at the school because it did not recognize her mother's conversion, told reporters recently. "I find it offensive and very upsetting."

Rabbi Danny Rich, chief executive of Liberal Judaism here, said the lower court's ruling, if upheld, would help make Judaism more inclusive.

"JFS is a state-funded school where my grandfather taught, and it's selecting applicants on the basis of religious politics," he said in an interview. "The Orthodox definition of Jewish excludes 40 percent of the Jewish community in this country."

jimmy olsen

Absolutely insane  that the state can interfere in these matters.
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stjaba

It's a natural consequence of state funded religious schools.

Camerus

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 10, 2009, 01:32:51 AM
Absolutely insane  that the state can interfere in these matters.

Did you read the article?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: stjaba on November 10, 2009, 01:49:47 AM
It's a natural consequence of state funded religious schools.
That was my first thought as well, but I wonder if a non-state funded school could get away with discriminating on the basis of ethnicity.

Admiral Yi

But on the other hand, a "certified" Jewish mother doesn't *necessarily* have to be ethnically Jewish either.

Camerus

Anyway, as it's a state-funded school, the notion that it can exclude applicants based on their parents' ethnic or religious ancestry is untenable.  If it wishes to screen students with that (IMO) outdated and exclusionary requirement of who is Jewish, then it should seek private sources of funding.  Simple as that.  Of course, clusterfucks like this show why governments shouldn't be in the business of funding parochial schools in the first place.

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Fate

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 10, 2009, 01:32:51 AM
Absolutely insane  that the state can interfere in these matters.

It's absolutely insane that a religious school can accept funding from the national government and expect no backlash against discriminatory policies.

Eddie Teach

Let's give Tim the benefit of the doubt and assume he included funding the school as interference.
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Grallon

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 10, 2009, 01:32:51 AM
Absolutely insane  that the state can interfere in these matters.


The State can intervene anywhere, especially it if pays for whatever service is being offered. <_<



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Malthus

What is absurd is drawing a hard line between "ethnicity" and "religion", and declaring that discrimination on the basis of the one is A-Ok, and discrimination on the basis of the other is verboten.

This scheme, which works perfectly well for Christianity, simply doesn't work with Judaism, which has as many have noted aspects of both ethnicity and faith to it. In Judaism, belief plays very little part in defining 'who is a Jew', so the sort of test appropriate for (say) determining who is a Protestant has no place and makes no sense. Lutherans may be saved by faith alone; Christians may be defined by faith alone; Jews are not, and no amount of judges saying they are will make it so.   

That said, I have no sympathy for the Orthodox insisting that they speak for all Jews - they don't.
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Valmy

Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 10, 2009, 01:59:39 AM
Anyway, as it's a state-funded school, the notion that it can exclude applicants based on their parents' ethnic or religious ancestry is untenable.  If it wishes to screen students with that (IMO) outdated and exclusionary requirement of who is Jewish, then it should seek private sources of funding.  Simple as that.  Of course, clusterfucks like this show why governments shouldn't be in the business of funding parochial schools in the first place.


Is it as simple as that?  Education is a public concern so it is not like as soon as you become fiscally private the state cannot step in to require you to run your school a certain way.
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Camerus

Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 09:38:17 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 10, 2009, 01:59:39 AM
Anyway, as it's a state-funded school, the notion that it can exclude applicants based on their parents' ethnic or religious ancestry is untenable.  If it wishes to screen students with that (IMO) outdated and exclusionary requirement of who is Jewish, then it should seek private sources of funding.  Simple as that.  Of course, clusterfucks like this show why governments shouldn't be in the business of funding parochial schools in the first place.


Is it as simple as that?  Education is a public concern so it is not like as soon as you become fiscally private the state cannot step in to require you to run your school a certain way.

As a state-funded school, I think most would agree they shouldn't be able to ban applicants on the basis of one's parentage.

As a privately-funded school, in *practical* terms, I think most people are willing to accept (as Malthus has outlined), the simple distinction between ethnicity and religion doesn't exist in the way it does in Christianity.  The Orthodox Jewish religion is long and established with a great tradition of scholarship, and, again *practically* speaking, I think most people are essentially willing to leave them to their own devices in that regard if they're the ones paying for it.

Valmy

Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on November 10, 2009, 09:44:03 AM
As a state-funded school, I think most would agree they shouldn't be able to ban applicants on the basis of one's parentage.

As a privately-funded school, in *practical* terms, I think most people are willing to accept (as Malthus has outlined), the simple distinction between ethnicity and religion doesn't exist in the way it does in Christianity.  The Orthodox Jewish religion is long and established with a great tradition of scholarship, and, again *practically* speaking, I think most people are essentially willing to leave them to their own devices in that regard if they're the ones paying for it.

I agree I am just wondering if that is actually legally true.  Aren't there laws about excluding based on ethnicity and religion even for private companies?  I mean we have parochial schools here and I have NEVER heard of them not admitting a student because that student was not Catholic...I mean I question if they would even be allowed to do that.
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