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Started by Syt, October 30, 2009, 11:32:26 AM

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Admiral Yi

#60
October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 30, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
It's true. My medicines cost $5000 per month. Can you explain to me, in childlike terms, why it should cost so much to get two shots?
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.

citizen k

#61
October 31, 2009, 02:57:14 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 30, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
It's true. My medicines cost $5000 per month. Can you explain to me, in childlike terms, why it should cost so much to get two shots?
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.
Oh really? When I started these medications 9 years ago they "only" cost about $2000 per month.

Lettow77

#62
October 31, 2009, 06:00:59 AM
 Many more people need these medicines than people have the ability to produce them. As such, the outrageous demand outpacing supply results in your obscene prices.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Zanza

#63
October 31, 2009, 06:05:50 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on October 31, 2009, 06:00:59 AM
Many more people need these medicines than people have the ability to produce them. As such, the outrageous demand outpacing supply results in your obscene prices.
Whatever the reason, I am fairly certain this is not it.

Eddie Teach

#64
October 31, 2009, 08:02:40 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.

Even supposing that were true, it's better to have affordable mass produced medicines than bleeding edge research that only the rich can benefit from.
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Berkut

#65
October 31, 2009, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 30, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
It's true. My medicines cost $5000 per month. Can you explain to me, in childlike terms, why it should cost so much to get two shots?
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.

I would bet it costs that much primarily because the person who wants it is not the person who has to pay for it, combined with the fact that there is only one supplied of the medicine.

However, I wonder if his insurance company really pays $5k/month for it, or if that is just what the pharm's list price is.

There is no real question that medical care pricing in the US is a complete mess. Simple economics will tell you that when you divorce the consumer from the pricing, you are going to end up with stupid prices.

How much does an MRI cost in the US these days?
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JacobL

#66
October 31, 2009, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 31, 2009, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 30, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
It's true. My medicines cost $5000 per month. Can you explain to me, in childlike terms, why it should cost so much to get two shots?
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.


How much does an MRI cost in the US these days?
My dads last one iirc was $4200

crazy canuck

#67
October 31, 2009, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: JacobL on October 31, 2009, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 31, 2009, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 30, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
It's true. My medicines cost $5000 per month. Can you explain to me, in childlike terms, why it should cost so much to get two shots?
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.


How much does an MRI cost in the US these days?
My dads last one iirc was $4200

Wow.  Just wow.

katmai

#68
October 31, 2009, 10:05:12 AM
Yeah my father just had one a few weeks back, was for a workmans comp claim so no idea how much it cost.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Ed Anger

#69
October 31, 2009, 10:06:48 AM
If I had my old bills from '06 handy, it would throw several people on this forum into shock.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

katmai

#70
October 31, 2009, 10:11:43 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2009, 10:06:48 AM
If I had my old bills from '06 handy, it would throw several people on this forum into shock.
Not I, i recall how much my dad's bills were from his minor heart attack in '03 even with his medical insurance covering 80%
:lol:
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

CountDeMoney

#71
October 31, 2009, 11:24:31 AM

HVC

#72
October 31, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 31, 2009, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: JacobL on October 31, 2009, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 31, 2009, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2009, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: citizen k on October 30, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
It's true. My medicines cost $5000 per month. Can you explain to me, in childlike terms, why it should cost so much to get two shots?
Because if they didn't cost $5000 they probably woudn't exist.


How much does an MRI cost in the US these days?
My dads last one iirc was $4200

Wow.  Just wow.
They're still paying off the R&D :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

JacobL

#73
October 31, 2009, 11:59:14 AM
The drugs my mom used to try and stop her brain cancer cost 3500 for 1 weeks supply.

Admiral Yi

#74
October 31, 2009, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 31, 2009, 08:02:40 AM
Even supposing that were true, it's better to have affordable mass produced medicines than bleeding edge research that only the rich can benefit from.
How do we get those affordable mass produced medicines?  Someone somewhere has to pay for the R&D and testing.  As Hans mentioned this includes the drugs that are unsuccesful, never used.  Right now the someone is US customers (generally) during the patent period. 
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