Freedom Tower is now WTC 1

[DGuller]

Were those done before 9/11?

Yup, I'm surprised you haven't seen them before.

[Neil]

Because towers invariably have names.  350 Fifth Avenue doesn't mean anything to most people,

Not invariably.  Several iconic NYC properties are known by their street addresses:  1 Central Park West (aka Time Warner Center); 11 Wall Street (shorn of the street number this has become a moniker for the entire financial system of the US); 1 Sutton Place South; 9 West (57th) (aka Solow Building); 15 Central Park West;  960 Fifth Avenue; 1 Fifth Avenue; 720 Park

Actually, the Time Warner Center kinda goes where I want to go with this:  It's all about the marketing.  TWC is marketed as '1 Central Park', when its real address is 10 Columbus Circle, and 1 Central Park West is the address of a building across the street.  When you build a prestige tower, you give it a name that'll stand out.  Looking at the top skyscrapers, almost all of them are named.

Most of those buildings you mentioned aren't skyscrapers.  Being an icon is one thing, but a skyscraper is in a whole different class.

[Siege]

Skyscraper is a retarded name to begin with.

[Neil]

Skyscraper is a retarded name to begin with.

What makes you say that?

[grumbler]

What makes you say that?

Third World types are notoriously literal.

[jimmy olsen]

What makes you say that?

Third World types are notoriously literal.

Skyscraper is a rather literal metaphor though, I don't understand his objection.

[Josquius]

To really think about it skyscraper is a pretty damn cool term really. Literal terms usually aren't.


Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

[Octavian]

To really think about it skyscraper is a pretty damn cool term really. Literal terms usually aren't.


Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

1776 is a wonderful year as it marks the birth of freedom and the attempt by Britain to kill this newborn child of the west. Thankfully they happily failed thus eventually ensuing freedom for us all.

[Valmy]

Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

It was actually a German who came up with that idea.

[Savonarola]

Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

Yeah, that would be as bad as if Britain had made a film version of one of Shakespeare's anti-French plays, like Henry V, during the Second World War while their ally, France, was occupied by the Axis.   

[Ed Anger]

Ba-zing.

And that Henry V is superior to the newer one.

[Josquius]

Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

Yeah, that would be as bad as if Britain had made a film version of one of Shakespeare's anti-French plays, like Henry V, during the Second World War while their ally, France, was occupied by the Axis.   

Sort of the same thing yeah.
But I suppose there you could read it as the Valois kings=Vichy whilst De Gaul was Burgundy or somesuch.
And of course I never said it was a big deal, just a minor thinking issue.

(and edditing messages on this board is a bitch)

[grumbler]

To really think about it skyscraper is a pretty damn cool term really. Literal terms usually aren't.


Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

As far as i can tell, only you are yammering on about 1776 being somehow anti-British, as opposed to being the highest expression of British political ideals in opposition to a German monarch and his cronies. 1776 and all that is something any Brit with a solid understanding of history should think a terrific thing, just as any American with a solid understanding of history is thankful that the two invasions of Quebec failed and Canada went on to become an independent nation.

[Josquius]

To really think about it skyscraper is a pretty damn cool term really. Literal terms usually aren't.


Also; is it just me finds it a little bit odd they're yammering about freedom and 1776 and all that when Britain is America's closest ally against the Islamicists right now? We don't care of course but still, it is kinda going after your own team.

As far as i can tell, only you are yammering on about 1776 being somehow anti-British, as opposed to being the highest expression of British political ideals in opposition to a German monarch and his cronies. 1776 and all that is something any Brit with a solid understanding of history should think a terrific thing, just as any American with a solid understanding of history is thankful that the two invasions of Quebec failed and Canada went on to become an independent nation.

Öh fuck off.
I said it once as a minor pondering issue, perhaps with a slight dose of irony, I certainly am not yammering on about it being anti-British.

[PDH]

yammer yammer yammer