American political climate = 1995 Israel?

[Admiral Yi]

I don't think unbogus is a real word.

I think I'll skip.

[alfred russel]

Normally I think Friedman is a rare voice of sanity on the NYT op-ed pages, but how was Whitewater "bogus?"

Curious choice of words, calling him sane, considering the RNC chair has responded by calling him a "nutjob."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27743.html

[Valmy]

"I mean, at the height of all this stuff on Bush and people complaining and protesting, and jumping up and down, you didn't have this kind of conversation,"

Ah the old 'because the Democrats are fucking this country up makes it not only justified but a requirement that we do the same'.

[DGuller]

Normally I think Friedman is a rare voice of sanity on the NYT op-ed pages, but how was Whitewater "bogus?"

Curious choice of words, calling him sane, considering the RNC chair has responded by calling him a "nutjob."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27743.html

Te be fair, the current RNC chairman is not exactly a fountain of wisdom, or even coherent thought.

[Neil]

"I mean, at the height of all this stuff on Bush and people complaining and protesting, and jumping up and down, you didn't have this kind of conversation,"

Ah the old 'because the Democrats are fucking this country up makes it not only justified but a requirement that we do the same'.

But that's true.  If one side is happy to use tactics that seem to have had some success, why wouldn't you respond in kind?

[The Minsky Moment]

Normally I think Friedman is a rare voice of sanity on the NYT op-ed pages, but how was Whitewater "bogus?"

The project never reached the subdivision stage so I wouldn't call it a smashing success.

[alfred russel]

Normally I think Friedman is a rare voice of sanity on the NYT op-ed pages, but how was Whitewater "bogus?"

Curious choice of words, calling him sane, considering the RNC chair has responded by calling him a "nutjob."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27743.html

Te be fair, the current RNC chairman is not exactly a fountain of wisdom, or even coherent thought.

He is the uncle of Mike Tyson's kids--who could have seen this coming?

[Valmy]

But that's true.  If one side is happy to use tactics that seem to have had some success, why wouldn't you respond in kind?

That is entirely true but it has nothing to do with whether or not we are fostering a climate similar to 1995 Israel.

[Berkut]

"I mean, at the height of all this stuff on Bush and people complaining and protesting, and jumping up and down, you didn't have this kind of conversation,"

Ah the old 'because the Democrats are fucking this country up makes it not only justified but a requirement that we do the same'.

That is bullshit - the nutjobs on the left where saying that he was going to engineer a coup when his time was up. That is at least as crazy as anything the nutjobs on the right have been barking about.

[Valmy]

That is bullshit - the nutjobs on the left where saying that he was going to engineer a coup when his time was up. That is at least as crazy as anything the nutjobs on the right have been barking about.

That is absolutely and precisely what I am saying.  I am glad we agree.

[Ed Anger]

General Betrayus will bring the armies of the east back home and deal with the Bushhitler's enemies.

[Malthus]

"I mean, at the height of all this stuff on Bush and people complaining and protesting, and jumping up and down, you didn't have this kind of conversation,"

Ah the old 'because the Democrats are fucking this country up makes it not only justified but a requirement that we do the same'.

I think what he's saying is that 'even when the fringe Democrats were saying stuff equally crazy to what the fringe Republicans are saying now, we never accused the Democrats of encouraging assasination'

[Valmy]

I think what he's saying is that 'even when the fringe Democrats were saying stuff equally crazy to what the fringe Republicans are saying now, we never accused the Democrats of encouraging assasination'

We would have if they were supposedly bringing guns to Bush rallies because they are that crazy.  The more people who start believing the bullshit the more dangerous things become IMO.

Perhaps though I misunderstood the article.  I did not get that he was calling out the Republican party for doing this but rather the general atmosphere among the nutters and the Republicans not doing anything more to stop it (at least no more than the Democrats usually do).

And anyway people were calling the Democrats traitors and worse IIRC.

[Malthus]

I think what he's saying is that 'even when the fringe Democrats were saying stuff equally crazy to what the fringe Republicans are saying now, we never accused the Democrats of encouraging assasination'

We would have if they were supposedly bringing guns to Bush rallies because they are that crazy.  The more people who start believing the bullshit the more dangerous things become IMO.

That may well be true and it may well also be true that the Republican wackjobs are more actively dangerous than the Democratic wackjobs. However, his rhetorical point (whether he's factually correct or not) is that they aren't really different and so the current accusations ratchet up the partisan rancour for no good purpose. 

[Ed Anger]

And anyway people were calling the Democrats traitors and worse IIRC.

they are. Dirty little American VietCong.