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Started by jimmy olsen, September 29, 2009, 03:48:40 PM

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Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 29, 2009, 05:16:12 PM
Why do Americans hate Labour? :huh:

It's not just Americans. :console:

For me at least it's because I'm a card-carrying Conservative, and thus empathize with my Conservative brethren across the pond.
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citizen k

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 29, 2009, 05:16:12 PM
Why do Americans hate Labour? :huh:

Timmay is all Americans? Some British hate Labour as well.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
For me at least it's because I'm a card-carrying Conservative, and thus empathize with my Conservative brethren across the pond.
That's fine.  I do the same for my Liberal Canadian friends :)
Let's bomb Russia!

Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 29, 2009, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
For me at least it's because I'm a card-carrying Conservative, and thus empathize with my Conservative brethren across the pond.
That's fine.  I do the same for my Liberal Canadian friends :)

As a Labourite you are required to see Jack Layton and the NDP as your political brethren. :nelson:
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Sheilbh

Quote from: citizen k on September 29, 2009, 05:22:54 PM
Timmay is all Americans?
For the purposes of my question :P

DS too.  I mean from an American perspective Labour's been very, very good surely?

QuoteSome British hate Labour as well.
I understand them.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
As a Labourite you are required to see Jack Layton and the NDP as your political brethren. :nelson:
Not so.  They're the Lib Dems :p
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Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 29, 2009, 05:25:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
As a Labourite you are required to see Jack Layton and the NDP as your political brethren. :nelson:
Not so.  They're the Lib Dems :p

Liberal Party of Canada = Liberal Democrats

NDP = Labour

since to trot out my favourite canard from Canadian politics, they are both socialist parties as witnessed by their membership in Socialist International. :P

http://www.socialistinternational.org/viewArticle.cfm?ArticlePageID=931
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Josephus

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 29, 2009, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
For me at least it's because I'm a card-carrying Conservative, and thus empathize with my Conservative brethren across the pond.
That's fine.  I do the same for my Liberal Canadian friends :)

It's just me, I think, Shelibh.  :(
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Josephus

Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:31:43 PM
since to trot out my favourite canard from Canadian politics, they are both socialist parties as witnessed by their membership in Socialist International. :P

http://www.socialistinternational.org/viewArticle.cfm?ArticlePageID=931

I had this argument with a bunch of you last week. I shall not be baited again.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 29, 2009, 05:16:12 PM
Why do Americans hate Labour? :huh:
I don't either.  I don't even get the Brown hate.

Josephus

Ok, I shall be baited.

BB...when googling, do more than read the front page.

according to the Socialist International:

The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of social democratic, socialist and labour parties. It currently brings together 170 political parties and organisations from all continents. (List of members in full)

Thus, the NDP is not necessarily socialist based on your argument. And, your honour, in anycase, we do not know when that list was last updated.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Josephus on September 29, 2009, 05:36:51 PM
Ok, I shall be baited.

BB...when googling, do more than read the front page.

according to the Socialist International:

The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of social democratic, socialist and labour parties. It currently brings together 170 political parties and organisations from all continents. (List of members in full)

Thus, the NDP is not necessarily socialist based on your argument. And, your honour, in anycase, we do not know when that list was last updated.


I don't understand what you're trying to say...


Edit: Oh I think he means that Labor and SD parties aren't socialist? Odd.
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Josephus

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 29, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
Edit: Oh I think he means that Labor and SD parties aren't socialist? Odd.

ERm...Not sure what you're trying to say.

If the Labour And SD parties were socialist than why wouldn't that manifest say:

"The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of socialist parties" instead of

"The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of social democratic, socialist and labour parties."

Seems a bit redundant.

Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Sheilbh

Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2009, 05:31:43 PM
since to trot out my favourite canard from Canadian politics, they are both socialist parties as witnessed by their membership in Socialist International. :P

http://www.socialistinternational.org/viewArticle.cfm?ArticlePageID=931
Okay.  You're right :weep:

But I still support the Liberals.  At one of your elections someone posted an online quiz to find which party you should vote for.  The Liberals are the only party in those for which I've got 100%.  That means something :wub:
Let's bomb Russia!

Sheilbh

Labour Conference had Zapatero and Jens Stoltenberg of Norway giving speeches yesterday.  Truly a sign of how low Labour's gone.  When Tony was in charge he could get Bill Clinton and Nelson Mandela to do Conference :(

I loved Stoltenberg's elections slogan though - 'Jens We Can!' :lol:

Both of them made a big deal of our international socialist, social democratic and labour movement.
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