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Roman Polanski arrested in Zürich

Started by Syt, September 27, 2009, 07:46:22 AM

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Quote from: Jaron on September 28, 2009, 05:31:48 AM
No, he just finds it..provacative he can fit a childs entire foot inside his mouth and still have enough room to seal his lips around the ankle.
:lol:
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I'm not sure that should even count as molestation. Creepy and weird, yes, but a foot is not a sex organ.
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Quote from: Jaron on September 28, 2009, 05:31:48 AM
No, he just finds it..provacative he can fit a childs entire foot inside his mouth and still have enough room to seal his lips around the ankle.
:lol:

DGuller

QuoteFrance, Poland want Polanski released on bail
By BRADLEY S. KLAPPER and ONNA CORAY, Associated Press Writers Bradley S. Klapper And Onna Coray, Associated Press Writers 1 hr 13 mins ago
ZURICH – The international tug-of-war over Roman Polanski escalated Monday as France and Poland urged Switzerland to free the 76-year-old director on bail and pressed U.S. officials all the way up to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on the case.

Polanski was in his third day of detention after Swiss police arrested him Saturday on an international warrant as he arrived in Zurich to receive a lifetime achievement award from a film festival.

A complicated legal process awaited all sides as the United States sought to secure his extradition for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl and fleeing to France a year later.

The Swiss Justice Ministry on Monday did not rule out the possibility that Polanski, director of such classic films as "Chinatown" and "Rosemary's Baby," could be released on bail under very strict conditions that he doesn't flee Switzerland.

Justice spokesman Guido Balmer said such an arrangement is "not entirely excluded" under Swiss law and that Polanski could file a motion on bail.

In Paris, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said he hoped Polanski could be quickly freed by the Swiss, calling the apprehension a "bit sinister." He also told France-Inter radio that he and his Polish counterpart Radek Sikorski wrote to Clinton, and said there could be a decision as early as Monday if a Swiss court accepts bail.

Polanski was "thrown to the lions," said French Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand. "In the same way that there is a generous America that we like, there is also a scary America that has just shown its face."

Polanski, who has dual French-Polish citizenship, has hired Swiss attorney Lorenz Erni to represent him in Switzerland, according to the law firm Eschmann & Erni.

Polanski seems most likely to spend several months in detention, unless he agrees to forgo any challenge to his extradition to the United States. Under a 1990 accord between Switzerland and the U.S., Washington has 60 days to submit a formal request for his transfer. Rulings in a similar dispute four years ago over Russia's former atomic energy minister Yevgeny Adamov confirmed that subjects should be held in custody throughout the procedure.

That means the procedure for extradition could also be lengthy for the United States. Its request for Polanski's transfer must first be examined by the Swiss Justice Ministry, and once approved it can be appealed at a number of courts.

The 2005 saga over Adamov's extradition, eventually to Russia and not the U.S., took seven months. The case also sets a possible precedent for France, which may wish to try one of its own nationals in a domestic court rather than in Los Angeles.

For now, Polanski is living in a Zurich cell where he receives three meals a day and is allowed outside for one hour of daily exercise.

Rebecca de Silva, spokeswoman for the Zurich prison authorities, refused to say exactly where Polanski was being held for security reasons, but said cells are usually single or double occupancy and that each room contains a table, storage compartment, sink, toilet and television.

Family and friends can only see Polanski for an hour each week, but that does not include official visits from lawyers and consular diplomats, de Silva said.

The Justice Ministry insisted Sunday that politics played no role in its arrest order on Polanski, who lives in France but has spent much time at a chalet in the luxury Swiss resort of Gstaad. That has led to widespread speculation among his friends and even politicians in Switzerland that the neutral country was coerced by Washington into action.

Polanski's French lawyer Herve Temime told the daily Le Parisien that Polanski stayed in Gstaad for months this year.

"He came here, but I have no idea how frequently," said Toni von Gruenigen, deputy mayor of Saarnen, where the famously discreet community is located.

Von Gruenigen said he was unaware of any attempt to arrest Polanski in the town where Elizabeth Taylor, Roger Moore and Richard Burton have also sought refuge from pressures at home.

"He kept a low profile," von Gruenigen told The AP.

The U.S. has had an outstanding warrant on Polanski since 1978, but the Swiss said American authorities have sought the arrest of the director around the world only since 2005.

Polanski has asked a U.S. appeals court in California to overturn a judges' refusal to throw out his case. He claims misconduct by the now-deceased judge who had arranged a plea bargain and then reneged on it.

His victim, Samantha Geimer, who long ago identified herself publicly, has joined in Polanski's bid for dismissal, saying she wants the case to be over. She sued Polanski and reached an undisclosed settlement.

Earlier this year, Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza in Los Angeles dismissed Polanski's bid to throw out the case because the director failed to appear in court but said there was "substantial misconduct" in the handling of the original case.

In his ruling, Espinoza said he reviewed not only legal documents, but also watched the HBO documentary, "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired," which suggests there was behind-the-scenes manipulations by a now-retired prosecutor not assigned to the case.

Polanski has lived for the past three decades in France, where his career has continued to flourish; he received a directing Oscar in absentia for the 2002 movie "The Pianist." He is married to French actress Emanuelle Seigner, with whom he has two children.

He has avoided traveling to countries likely to extradite him. For instance, he testified by video link from Paris in a 2005 libel trial in London against Vanity Fair magazine. He did not want to enter Britain for fear of being arrested.

Balmer said the difference during Polanski's visit this time to Zurich was that authorities knew when and where he would arrive. The Alpine country does not perform regular passport checks anymore on arrivals from 24 other European countries.

Balmer also rejected any hint that the arrest was somehow aimed at winning favor with the U.S. after a series of bilateral spats over tax evasion and wealthy Americans stashing money at Swiss banking giant UBS AG.

"There was a valid arrest request and we knew when he was coming. That's why he was taken into custody," Balmer told The AP. "There is no link with any other issues."

Investigators in the U.S. learned of Polanski's planned trip days ago, giving them enough time to lay the groundwork for an arrest, said William Sorukas, chief of the U.S. Marshals Service's domestic investigations branch.

The arrest prompted angry criticism Monday from fellow filmmakers and actors across Europe.

"It seems inadmissible ... that an international cultural evening, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers, is used by police to apprehend him," says a petition circulating in France and signed by artists including Costa Gavras, Stefen Frears and Monica Bellucci.

Oscar-winning director Andrzej Wajda and other Polish filmmakers also appealed for the immediate release of Polanski, a native of France who was taken to Poland by his parents, escaped Krakow's Jewish ghetto as a child during World War II and lived off the charity of strangers. His mother died at the Nazis' Auschwitz death camp.

Polanski has already "atoned for the sins of his young years," Jacek Bromski, head of the Polish Filmmakers Association, told The AP. "He has paid for it by not being able to enter the U.S. and in his professional life he has paid for it by not being able to make films in Hollywood."

Wow, WTF is wrong with these people?  It's disgusting how they stick up for an admitted pervert, and criticizing America for "being sneaky" while catching a guy who was on the run for 30 years. 

And asking for bail was the final touch.  I wonder what can go wrong (or right, in some people's minds) with granting bail to a guy who was on the run for 30 years.

Razgovory

Kinda reminds me of the Einhorn thing.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

How did this girl look?
Everyone is yelling 'pervert!!!' and 'paedo!' and all that but she could well have looked 16.
Not a total defence of course but it negates things a little.
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KRonn

Quote from: DGuller on September 28, 2009, 09:23:13 AM

Wow, WTF is wrong with these people?  It's disgusting how they stick up for an admitted pervert, and criticizing America for "being sneaky" while catching a guy who was on the run for 30 years. 

And asking for bail was the final touch.  I wonder what can go wrong (or right, in some people's minds) with granting bail to a guy who was on the run for 30 years.
Yep. Polanski had pleaded guilty and  was awaiting sentencing, right? This isn't even a case of expiring statue of limitations on a crime, is it? I'm just amazed at some of these outrages over Polanski being caught. And what is up with France not extraditing known and accused criminals?

Martinus

Quote from: Tyr on September 28, 2009, 09:48:49 AM
How did this girl look?
Everyone is yelling 'pervert!!!' and 'paedo!' and all that but she could well have looked 16.
Not a total defence of course but it negates things a little.
Well, the age of consent in California is 18. There is no fucking way you could confuse a 13 y.o. with a 18 y.o., and besides it's not like we have a case of two love struck teenagers here, but a 40 y.o. guy who should just know better and at least make damn sure she is of legal age before he fucks a girl that could be his daughter.

Martinus

Quote from: KRonn on September 28, 2009, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 28, 2009, 09:23:13 AM

Wow, WTF is wrong with these people?  It's disgusting how they stick up for an admitted pervert, and criticizing America for "being sneaky" while catching a guy who was on the run for 30 years. 

And asking for bail was the final touch.  I wonder what can go wrong (or right, in some people's minds) with granting bail to a guy who was on the run for 30 years.
Yep. Polanski had pleaded guilty and  was awaiting sentencing, right? This isn't even a case of expiring statue of limitations on a crime, is it? I'm just amazed at some of these outrages over Polanski being caught. And what is up with France not extraditing known and accused criminals?

He is a French citizen, isn't he? Most European countries do not extradite own citizens - in some it is expressly forbidden by their constitutions.

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Quote from: Martinus on September 28, 2009, 10:20:54 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 28, 2009, 09:48:49 AM
How did this girl look?
Everyone is yelling 'pervert!!!' and 'paedo!' and all that but she could well have looked 16.
Not a total defence of course but it negates things a little.
Well, the age of consent in California is 18. There is no fucking way you could confuse a 13 y.o. with a 18 y.o., and besides it's not like we have a case of two love struck teenagers here, but a 40 y.o. guy who should just know better and at least make damn sure she is of legal age before he fucks a girl that could be his daughter.

And then there are the accusations of drugging, which would make the age irrelevent.
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Quote from: Jaron on September 28, 2009, 05:31:48 AM
No, he just finds it..provacative he can fit a childs entire foot inside his mouth and still have enough room to seal his lips around the ankle.

:lmfao:

That is some funny shit right there.
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