Roman Polanski arrested in Zürich

[Malthus]

PARIS — While an international team of lawyers fought to free Roman Polanski from a Swiss jail, where he is being held for possible extradition to the United States, the action against the 76-year-old film director is quickly exposing deep fault lines between his supporters in the arts, entertainment and politics and his increasingly outspoken critics.

Now I have to say the heck with Polanski, and all those who support his flight from justice. So many of those supporting him are probably "champions" of the little guy, the down trodden, social justice for all, yet this guy is able to obtain an international stable of lawyers that only the rich and famous can do! Oh, they irony!     

I dunno about that - his supporters are mostly famous entertainment industry insiders who appear to advocate the rights of the artistic elite to do whatsoever they damn well please. 

[Martinus]

PARIS — While an international team of lawyers fought to free Roman Polanski from a Swiss jail, where he is being held for possible extradition to the United States, the action against the 76-year-old film director is quickly exposing deep fault lines between his supporters in the arts, entertainment and politics and his increasingly outspoken critics.

Now I have to say the heck with Polanski, and all those who support his flight from justice. So many of those supporting him are probably "champions" of the little guy, the down trodden, social justice for all, yet this guy is able to obtain an international stable of lawyers that only the rich and famous can do! Oh, they irony!     

A Polish MP has said on his blog ( ) that the Polanski's defenders have "shit for brains". I love how people think blogs are somehow private or less public.

Meanwhile, an "ivory tower" Polish films director has called the victim a "child prostitute" in an interview on a Polish tv channel and someone has forwarded the clip to the woman and now she is sueing his ass (which I fully support btw).

It is such a wonderful clusterfuck.

[Berkut]

This just gets better and better. I love the backlash against the liberal media elite.

Go France!

[The Minsky Moment]

So assuming he gets extradited, what happens? I assume the 30+ year flight is another crime that will have a sentenced attached, but what do you think he is looking at for the original conviction?

The flight carries max 1 year.

The sentencing on the original conviction is up in the air.  Presumably Polanski will get the opportunity to pursue his bias claim re the now dead original judge.

[Martinus]

PARIS — While an international team of lawyers fought to free Roman Polanski from a Swiss jail, where he is being held for possible extradition to the United States, the action against the 76-year-old film director is quickly exposing deep fault lines between his supporters in the arts, entertainment and politics and his increasingly outspoken critics.

Now I have to say the heck with Polanski, and all those who support his flight from justice. So many of those supporting him are probably "champions" of the little guy, the down trodden, social justice for all, yet this guy is able to obtain an international stable of lawyers that only the rich and famous can do! Oh, they irony!     

I dunno about that - his supporters are mostly famous entertainment industry insiders who appear to advocate the rights of the artistic elite to do whatsoever they damn well please. 

I think there has been two stages here.

At first, when all the big wigs of Hollywood and European filmmaking came out in his defense, the "champions of the little guy" (myself included ) had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction and also started defending him, since we usually align with the artistic elite in condemnation of the US fascism and whatnot.

However after a while most people have reached the "Hey, wait a minute" stage, and now it's just his filmmaking buddies who are pretty much saying that because he is a great director and lived through Holocaust, he can fuck 13 y.o.s - which I think many people take an issue with.

[KRonn]

PARIS — While an international team of lawyers fought to free Roman Polanski from a Swiss jail, where he is being held for possible extradition to the United States, the action against the 76-year-old film director is quickly exposing deep fault lines between his supporters in the arts, entertainment and politics and his increasingly outspoken critics.

Now I have to say the heck with Polanski, and all those who support his flight from justice. So many of those supporting him are probably "champions" of the little guy, the down trodden, social justice for all, yet this guy is able to obtain an international stable of lawyers that only the rich and famous can do! Oh, they irony!     

I dunno about that - his supporters are mostly famous entertainment industry insiders who appear to advocate the rights of the artistic elite to do whatsoever they damn well please. 

Hehe... makes it all the more ironic. Bunch of miscreants. They probably are all for justice, when it doesn't affect their sensibilities.   

[Razgovory]

Shit, he did all this to avoid a measly 48 days?  I know child rape wasn't taken seriously back in the 1970's but that's a real sweet heart deal.  This is the Draconian legal system the high society is complaining about.

[Ed Anger]

PARIS — While an international team of lawyers fought to free Roman Polanski from a Swiss jail, where he is being held for possible extradition to the United States, the action against the 76-year-old film director is quickly exposing deep fault lines between his supporters in the arts, entertainment and politics and his increasingly outspoken critics.

Now I have to say the heck with Polanski, and all those who support his flight from justice. So many of those supporting him are probably "champions" of the little guy, the down trodden, social justice for all, yet this guy is able to obtain an international stable of lawyers that only the rich and famous can do! Oh, they irony!     

I dunno about that - his supporters are mostly famous entertainment industry insiders who appear to advocate the rights of the artistic elite to do whatsoever they damn well please. 

I think there has been two stages here.

At first, when all the big wigs of Hollywood and European filmmaking came out in his defense, the "champions of the little guy" (myself included ) had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction and also started defending him, since we usually align with the artistic elite in condemnation of the US fascism and whatnot.

However after a while most people have reached the "Hey, wait a minute" stage, and now it's just his filmmaking buddies who are pretty much saying that because he is a great director and lived through Holocaust, he can fuck 13 y.o.s - which I think many people take an issue with.

Too late. You can't flip flop on us. You are stuck.

[Martinus]

I think this thread shows that Languish posters just do not have tools to deal with the rarest and most bizarre behavior of all in online debates: admitting that one is wrong.

Most people, like grumbler, just refuse to acknowledge it, and repeat their last disagreement over and over in a vain hope of generating a familiar response.

[alfred russel]

So assuming he gets extradited, what happens? I assume the 30+ year flight is another crime that will have a sentenced attached, but what do you think he is looking at for the original conviction?

The flight carries max 1 year.

The sentencing on the original conviction is up in the air.  Presumably Polanski will get the opportunity to pursue his bias claim re the now dead original judge.

What does that mean? Suppose he shows the judge was biased--without sentencing, did the judge even make a relevent decision (it seems we have a guilty plea followed by a guy running a way for fear of a biased judged).

[Razgovory]

I admit I'm wrong when I'm right.

[Ed Anger]

I think this thread shows that Languish posters just do not have tools to deal with the rarest and most bizarre behavior of all in online debates: admitting that one is wrong.

Most people, like grumbler, just refuse to acknowledge it, and repeat their last disagreement over and over in a vain hope of generating a familiar response.

I think this thread shows that many Languishites are perverts, and need to be beaten.

[Eddie Teach]

I think this thread shows that many Languishites are perverts, and need to be beaten.

You could probably post this on any thread that's reached the second page and be right.

[C.C.R.]

I think this thread shows that many Languishites are perverts, and need to be beaten.

Or answer to the Coca-Cola company at the very least...

[Barrister]

I think this thread shows that Languish posters just do not have tools to deal with the rarest and most bizarre behavior of all in online debates: admitting that one is wrong.

Most people, like grumbler, just refuse to acknowledge it, and repeat their last disagreement over and over in a vain hope of generating a familiar response.

I think this thread shows that many Languishites are perverts, and need to be beaten.

e.g. Ed Anger