British citizen creates national uproar in Quebec

[Ancient Demon]

Hell, normally jingoism is an alien concept to me, but I think I could be a Canadian nationalist. Especially if it meant hating the Quebecois traitors.

Heh, you should see the posts by "Niptium" on the Paradox forums.

[Neil]

Drakken, tell you friend to learn french or go home.

Quebec is in Canada.  English is the one and only language of Canada.

[Drakken]

Drakken, tell you friend to learn french or go home.

His point still stands, though. The financing of French courses has taken a drop in recent years and needs to be much more promoted and sustained.

It might be great among your pals in the ivory tower at Le Devoir, but didn't you notice there is a shortage of nurses in Quebec's public healthcare system? If our local formation cannot withstand the demand and supply enough nurses for our hospitals, where to find nurses and such highly valued service providers but in the ROC?

Filling such high demand positions in health care demand that we reexamine our prerequisites and that we cut a little slack on this obsession. Perhaps Quebec should do what all civilized countries do, compromise and pay courses in French for Anglophones so that they may work in Quebec and learn the fucking language while they study to earn their schooling equivalencies.

And chances are the criteria forced on my friend's case were in fact arbitrarily imposed, just to piss on her because she is unilingually Anglo (like 80% or so of the WASP population in Canada), and that such requirements were in fact not needed.

And that does not excuse the cavalier and unprofessional, if not outright xenophobic treatment people from the Anglo community face when asking for service from some elements of Quebec's civil service when they can't speak French, like my friend. Especially in Montreal. The fact is translators services should be available, or they should be redirected to people who are bilingual, not ridiculed and insulted behind her back like she was.

EDIT: Errrrrrrrrrrrr, Oex was in fact in agreement with me. Meal culpa. 

[Drakken]

Drakken, tell you friend to learn french or go home.

Quebec is in Canada.  English is the one and only language of Canada.

While I disagree, at least English should be available by default in public services, if only because Quebec is part of Canada and Quebec is the exception, not the rule.

[Oexmelin]

It might be great among your pals in the ivory tower at Le Devoir, but didn't you notice there is a shortage of nurses in Quebec's public healthcare system?

Before reverting to your usual aggressive manner, perhaps you should have read what I wrote, as I was agreeing with you regarding the needs to subsidy heavily French courses. Which is what was actually done in Quebec before 1990s.

[Drakken]

It might be great among your pals in the ivory tower at Le Devoir, but didn't you notice there is a shortage of nurses in Quebec's public healthcare system?

Before reverting to your usual aggressive manner, perhaps you should have read what I wrote, as I was agreeing with you regarding the needs to subsidy heavily French courses. Which is what was actually done in Quebec before 1990s.

I noticed too late, and I apologized. See my edit.   

[Drakken]

Hell, normally jingoism is an alien concept to me, but I think I could be a Canadian nationalist. Especially if it meant hating the Quebecois traitors.

Heh, you should see the posts by "Niptium" on the Paradox forums.

And I refer you to my reply to his last pro-separatist diatribe in the OT, in which I thoroughly trash his illusions with a sledgehammer. 

[Sheilbh]

While I disagree, at least English should be available by default in public services, if only because Quebec is part of Canada and Quebec is the exception, not the rule.

All public services should be bilingual.  If Ireland can have a Gaelic speaking police force then everyone in the public sector in Canada should be bilingual.  You at least have two living languages.

[Admiral Yi]

All public services should be bilingual.  If Ireland can have a Gaelic speaking police force then everyone in the public sector in Canada should be bilingual.  You at least have two living languages.

You would either incur the massive expense of teaching every postmaster in the Yukon French or you would narrow down the pool of applicants dramatically.

[Neil]

While I disagree, at least English should be available by default in public services, if only because Quebec is part of Canada and Quebec is the exception, not the rule.

All public services should be bilingual.  If Ireland can have a Gaelic speaking police force then everyone in the public sector in Canada should be bilingual.  You at least have two living languages.

Perhaps if both languages were equal.  However, English is superior to French in every way, and usage of French is concentrated in a relatively small area of the country.

Then again, since you come from a rather small, homogenous country, you probably don't appreciate the difficulties involved.

[Sheilbh]

All public services should be bilingual.  If Ireland can have a Gaelic speaking police force then everyone in the public sector in Canada should be bilingual.  You at least have two living languages.

You would either incur the massive expense of teaching every postmaster in the Yukon French or you would narrow down the pool of applicants dramatically.

I agree.  It should begin with every primary school being bilingual.  It might cost a bit to teach the teachers - though maybe there are enough Quebecois teachers.  This isn't, alas, immediately possible but it would only take a generation.

Then again, since you come from a rather small, homogenous country, you probably don't appreciate the difficulties involved.

Well smaller geographically.  I'd have no problem with every school in this country being bilingual, or non-English language medium.  Indeed one of my friends didn't learn English until he was 8 (grew up in a Welsh-speaking area of Wales) which I think is great.  It should be something we all get, especially in countries with two or more languages.

[Neil]

I agree.  It should begin with every primary school being bilingual.  It might cost a bit to teach the teachers - though maybe there are enough Quebecois teachers.  This isn't, alas, immediately possible but it would only take a generation.

Politically impossible.  Besides, why educate children in what is effectively a dead language like French?

[Admiral Yi]

Shelf, when you're talking about a massive government outlay of funds it would be helpful if your justification were a little more substantial than "I think it would be nice."

[Rex Francorum]

Drakken, tell you friend to learn french or go home.

Fuck you. The language of Canada is English. You lost the war. Canada: love it or leave it.

Actually, it is what many wants... that Québec leaves Canada

Language of Canada maybe english but language of Québec is french 

[Rex Francorum]

Drakken, tell you friend to learn french or go home.

Quebec is in Canada.  English is the one and only language of Canada.

Try to say that to people of Charlevoix, Abitibi or Kamouraska