Did Canada just grant asylum to a white south african?

Started by Bluebook, September 02, 2009, 01:37:35 PM

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Lettow77

 South africa isnt anything like first world anymore.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Slargos

Quote from: Tyr on September 02, 2009, 01:47:51 PM
I know a white Zambian who got assylum here in Sweden. Not too unheard of but South Africa....Now that's supposed to be first world (lol) isn't it?

:rolleyes:

That sounds extremely unlikely.

Do you know him personally?

I suppose if he's not actually white but rather "white" I can buy it..

Josquius

Quote from: Slargos on September 03, 2009, 03:56:18 AM
:rolleyes:

That sounds extremely unlikely.

Do you know him personally?

I suppose if he's not actually white but rather "white" I can buy it..
Yeah, I now her. She's white as white. Ginger even.
I think it was something to do with her dad meddling in politics.
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Josephus

Canada apparently accepts Jewish refugees from Israel. No one is more pissed off at this than the Canadian Jewish community, who feel it deligitimizes Israel's democratic status.
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Viking

Quote from: Habsburg on September 02, 2009, 10:52:33 PM
I would expect to see much more of this in the next 5-10 years.  Not sure how much of a future whites have in Zuid Afrika?

Well, if they just hang in long enough and don't allow the Zimbabweans to gain citizenship then they just have to wait for all the Xhosa, Zulu et.al. die of AIDS then they get to be a real majority.
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Neil

Quote from: Viking on September 03, 2009, 07:45:03 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on September 02, 2009, 10:52:33 PM
I would expect to see much more of this in the next 5-10 years.  Not sure how much of a future whites have in Zuid Afrika?

Well, if they just hang in long enough and don't allow the Zimbabweans to gain citizenship then they just have to wait for all the Xhosa, Zulu et.al. die of AIDS then they get to be a real majority.
I would rather imagine that they'll rape AIDS into the white population.
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Neil

Quote from: Josephus on September 03, 2009, 07:03:15 AM
Canada apparently accepts Jewish refugees from Israel. No one is more pissed off at this than the Canadian Jewish community, who feel it deligitimizes Israel's democratic status.
That's a stretch.  Accepting refugees from a warzone is alright, and until Israel does the right thing and pushes the Palestinians into Egypt and Jordan, Israel will remain a warzone.

The only thing I'd be leery of is if the refugees are Russian 'Jews'.
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Quote from: Neil on September 03, 2009, 08:02:46 AM
I would rather imagine that they'll rape AIDS into the white population.

Why would you want to imagine that?  :lol:
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Quote from: Barrister on September 02, 2009, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 02, 2009, 09:49:33 PM
Our refugee system is highly retarded.

It makes me happy that non-right-wingers can see this. :yes:

oh mostly everyone can see this. regardless of leaning.
:p

Neil

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 03, 2009, 08:19:29 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 03, 2009, 08:02:46 AM
I would rather imagine that they'll rape AIDS into the white population.

Why would you want to imagine that?  :lol:
I can imagine anything.
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citizen k

QuoteCanada appealing controversial refugee case
By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press

TORONTO – Canada's federal government said Thursday it would challenge a contentious Canadian immigration board panel ruling that granted refugee status to a white man from South Africa who claimed persecution from blacks in his home country.

Danielle Norris, spokeswoman for the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, said the government will ask the Federal Court to hear the challenge. She earlier said department lawyers were studying the panel's decision.

South Africa had asked the Canadian government to appeal to the court. The ruling has angered many in South Africa, where race remains a highly sensitive issue.

A Canadian immigration board panel issued its ruling late last week in the case involving Brandon Huntley.

Huntley argued that whites are targeted by black criminals in South Africa and that the South African government does nothing to protect them. He claimed he was attacked seven times during attempted robberies and muggings.

Tribunal panel chair William Davis ruled that Huntley would stand out like a "sore thumb" due to his color in any part of South Africa and ruled that Huntley's fears of persecution are justified based on the evidence he submitted.

The Immigration and Refugee Board has refused to comment on the case. Board spokesman Stephane Malepart has said he is barred from commenting on any individual case by privacy provisions.

The board is an independent tribunal that operates at arms' length from the Canadian government.

"The government felt that because this is a fairly unique claim, it's something we felt would be wise to put before a higher authority, in this case the Federal Court," said Alykhan Velshi, a spokesman for Immigration Minister Jason Kenney.

Norris said a judicial review by the Federal Court will not hear additional evidence, with respect to the facts, for example, about conditions in South Africa.

Anesh Maistry, head of the political section at the South African High Commission in Canada, said board's decision is wrong and belies the reality of South Africa. High Commissions are embassies in British Commonwealth nations.

Maistry also said the board never asked for South Africa's views on Huntley's claims nor did it seek to confirm his allegations of repeated attacks.

"This decision is incorrect, it is not factual, it does not represent the facts on the ground. It portrays South Africa in a negative light and it misrepresents the work that has been done in the last 15 years to build a nonracial society in the country," Maistry said.

Abraham Nkomo, South Africa's High Commissioner to Canada, said the refugee board was taken for a ride in the matter and said that it's a crime issue, not a race issue.

"There is no persecution of the white community in South Africa. What crime does happen happens to targets of convenience," Nkomo said in an interview with the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.

Nkomo met with Canadian officials and expressed surprise Huntley was granted refugee status.

Huntley came to Canada on a visa in 2004 to work as a carnival worker. He returned in 2005 on a one-year visa and stayed for a second year illegally. He went back to South Africa, then entered Canada a third time, and filed his refugee claim in 2008.

Deepak Obrai, Canada's parliamentary secretary to the minister of Foreign Affairs and a Conservative lawmaker in Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government, expressed outrage over the board's decision in a statement and said it shows a serious lack of judgment.

"Having grown up in Africa and witnessed the devastating effects of apartheid, in this case against blacks and Indians, it is beyond my understanding how a Canadian institution makes a decision on a racial basis," said Obrai, who was born in Tanzania.


Zoupa

Quote from: Neil on September 03, 2009, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: Josephus on September 03, 2009, 07:03:15 AM
Canada apparently accepts Jewish refugees from Israel. No one is more pissed off at this than the Canadian Jewish community, who feel it deligitimizes Israel's democratic status.
That's a stretch.  Accepting refugees from a warzone is alright, and until Israel does the right thing and pushes the Palestinians into Egypt and Jordan, Israel will remain a warzone.

The only thing I'd be leery of is if the refugees are Russian 'Jews'.

A lot of them are, at least in Mtl.

HVC

there's a lot worse criteria then allowing white people from africa escape to canada.
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saskganesh

Quote from: HVC on September 03, 2009, 07:21:41 PM
there's a lot worse criteria then allowing white people from africa escape to canada.

sure, but Kenney is a twit. once he speaks, you'll see he did it for the wrong reasons.
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Neil

Quote from: saskganesh on September 03, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 03, 2009, 07:21:41 PM
there's a lot worse criteria then allowing white people from africa escape to canada.

sure, but Kenney is a twit. once he speaks, you'll see he did it for the wrong reasons.
He's the guy who mouthed off about the NDP, too.

You know, Liberal MPs were all retarded, but it seems that many Tory MPs are also retarded, but in different ways.
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