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Started by Viking, August 31, 2009, 03:20:00 PM

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Josquius

#15
August 31, 2009, 03:45:39 PM
hmm....I would have to go with Barrister. Unless those who convicted him are still alive.
Horrible stuff that happened though. WTF were they thinking giving a gay female hormones to cure them?
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Razgovory

#16
August 31, 2009, 04:12:11 PM
Dawkins is for it?  I'm against.
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Faeelin

#17
August 31, 2009, 04:31:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 31, 2009, 03:36:03 PM
I have to say that I am not a fan of apologizing for things that occurred in the distant past.  It's a matter for historians, not current governments.

Now as a person with an interest in history let me say it's tragic what happened to Turing.

Is it? Let's imagine Turing had children, or was close to a sibling who had children. 55 years ago is within living memory for my father, after all. Do you think they would care about him being knighted?

grumbler

#18
August 31, 2009, 04:34:04 PM
I think that an apology is absurd, given that the government was implementing the will of the people of the day, but a pardon and posthumous knighthood (if that kind of thing is done) are not unreasonable.  Certainly people have been knighted for doing less for Britain than Turing.
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sbr

#19
August 31, 2009, 09:24:25 PM
If he has direct family or descendants still alive an apology to them would be fine; an apology to the dead guy himself doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than a photo op/pat on the back to a politician somewhere.  I think grumbler has the right idea with a pardon/knighthood.

DGuller

#20
August 31, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
If Turing weren't gay, he would have a family there to receive the public apology for his treatment.  How ironic.

Razgovory

#21
August 31, 2009, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
If Turing weren't gay, he would have a family there to receive the public apology for his treatment.  How ironic.

:lol:  This is why I like you.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#22
August 31, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
Didn't gays turn out to be a big security risk in the UK after WWII?   :ph34r:
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garbon

#23
August 31, 2009, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 31, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
Didn't gays turn out to be a big security risk in the UK after WWII?   :ph34r:

And what was it that made them such a security risk, I wonder...

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#24
September 01, 2009, 12:59:37 PM
I thought he was actually gay? Am I missing something?
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#25
September 01, 2009, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 01, 2009, 12:59:37 PM
I thought he was actually gay? Am I missing something?

He was actually working on developing a male sexbot when he died.
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