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How to lose friends and alienate countries

Started by crazy canuck, March 23, 2009, 03:37:02 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on March 23, 2009, 04:19:57 PM
However, it's important to note that Rick Mercer isn't even a little bit funny.

Some of his political satire is laugh out loud funny.

Ed Anger

Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 23, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Funny show, worth watching if you're up at 3 am. More farce than satire though.

I'm watching Girls Gone Wild infomercials at that hour.
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Malthus

Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 23, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Funny show, worth watching if you're up at 3 am. More farce than satire though.

So, who is the *other* viewer?  ;)
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Neil

Quote from: Grey Fox on March 23, 2009, 04:23:45 PM
He went out with Belinda Stronach
She left him, She crossed to the lib.
She's richer then him.
I didn't think that you were talking about Stronach, seeing as they didn't date very long.

At any rate, MacKay actually has his own accomplishments, whereas Stronach's are ther product of her being the bored daughter of a billionaire.  He's not the great Canadian statesman, but he's far more substantial than she is.
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Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 23, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 23, 2009, 04:19:57 PM
However, it's important to note that Rick Mercer isn't even a little bit funny.

Some of his political satire is laugh out loud funny.
That's an unfortunate opinion.
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FunkMonk

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Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 23, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Funny show, worth watching if you're up at 3 am. More farce than satire though.
Yeah. It's basically just a few people shooting the breeze with a camera trained on them. They just say whatever off the top of their heads.
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Martinus

No matter how stupid the humour, I find the concept of a government intervening in relation to a private media outlet's programme silly at best and disturbing at worst.

Faeelin

Why shouldn't Canada complain when a news organization taunts one of the few countries whose troops in Iraq engage in combat missions?


Martinus

Quote from: Faeelin on March 23, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Why shouldn't Canada complain when a news organization taunts one of the few countries whose troops in Iraq engage in combat missions?
From a practical perspective, any government trying to fight with comedians usually ends up looking even more silly (and makes the satirical attack, however originally silly, somehow justified and vindicated).

From a broader perspective, even if it just a verbal spat (with no legal action being brought), any government engaging its political apparatus (and, thus, tax payers' money) in a dispute with media risks unwittingly curbing freedom of speech.

Neil

Quote from: Faeelin on March 23, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Why shouldn't Canada complain when a news organization taunts one of the few countries whose troops in Iraq engage in combat missions?
Because that's what news organizations do, especially late-night talk shows from American news organizations.

And that's Afghanistan.
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Neil

Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
From a broader perspective, even if it just a verbal spat (with no legal action being brought), any government engaging its political apparatus (and, thus, tax payers' money) in a dispute with media risks unwittingly curbing freedom of speech.
Foreign governments have no obligation to respect the freedom of Americans to speak.
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garbon

Quote from: Neil on March 23, 2009, 06:19:40 PM
Because that's what news organizations do, especially late-night talk shows from American news organizations.

It's sort of like how the White House looked silly when it moved against Limbaugh.
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Barrister

Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
From a broader perspective, even if it just a verbal spat (with no legal action being brought), any government engaging its political apparatus (and, thus, tax payers' money) in a dispute with media risks unwittingly curbing freedom of speech.

How can the Canadian government curc an American news network's freedom of speech?

What seems like what happened is that the Canadian government asked for an pology on behalf of the Canadian troops.  They didn't demand or threaten anything, but stated they thought the comments were insensitive.

I agree it's making a mountain out of a molehill (I'd never heard of this program before) it was generating some press attention in Canada after it hit youtube, so I guess I understand why the government said something.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Faeelin on March 23, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Why shouldn't Canada complain when a news organization taunts one of the few countries whose troops in Iraq engage in combat missions?
You complain when you want someone else to fix the problem for you or when you're issuing a threat.  What's Canada going to do, jam Fox's signal in Canada?

Dude should have followed Obama's lead following the RACISS monkey cartoon: express contempt.

Neil

Quote from: garbon on March 23, 2009, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 23, 2009, 06:19:40 PM
Because that's what news organizations do, especially late-night talk shows from American news organizations.

It's sort of like how the White House looked silly when it moved against Limbaugh.
I would imagine that's how Congress will look when they legislate him off the air.
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