Victoria 2

[Razgovory]

The multitude of Pirates did make having a large navy important for any power with aspirations of colonies.  Even non-colonial powers need some navy to keep the pirates away.

[Hansmeister]

Did they ever make that Rome game any good?  I never showed any interest in it but maybe I ought to give it a spin.

No.  Even if you're very forgiving to its faults due to really loving this time period it still fails.  I hope they make Rome 2.

[DGuller]

Will Vicky 2 still have a Stalinist economic model?

[DisturbedPervert]

Definitely. I also have hope for the EU3 expansion:

EU3 expansion?  This will be a free download for everyone who bought EU3 Complete Edition, right?

[KRonn]

Nice, one of my favorite games, as are nation builder type games. I like the economic and politics of Vicky Revolutions, though the politics have always been difficult to master.

Looks like some interesting and innovative new concepts in Vicky 2. It'll be interesting to see those are explained/implemented as development goes on. I'll be looking forward to this one! 

[Josquius]

Extra diplomatic options for republics sounds very WTF.
And why extend the period to WW2? Wouldn't back to the Napoleonics be better?

Did they ever make that Rome game any good?  I never showed any interest in it but maybe I ought to give it a spin.

No.  Even if you're very forgiving to its faults due to really loving this time period it still fails.  I hope they make Rome 2.

Ack no.
Rome...just doesn't work as a paradox game.
Nations in the modern sense just didn't really exist back then, its the cities that were important. There are only 3 or 4 examples of actual empires in the entire game which makes it all very....ugh.
A good Roman era game would need a drastically different focus to the whole 'paint teh map red!!11' of typical strategy games. More focused on internal politics and the like.

[Liep]

EU3 expansion?  This will be a free download for everyone who bought EU3 Complete Edition, right?

Think of it as an encore, the show is over, but you still expect a few extra songs. That was IN, now this is more like beer afterwards in the pub.

[Liep]

Wow.  I didn't think this would ever come.  I mean, Vicky wasn't exactly a commercial success.  Or even a technical one.  The game really didn't work that well even with the expansion.  Hopefully this will be better!

I guess I'll have to rev up EU3 again as well.

"the team will work on a sequel to the immensly popular grand strategy game set in the colonial era of the 19th century."

Also, EU3 expansion should be out before christmas. :O

[Darth Wagtaros]

Never got into Vicks.  But I may buy this anyway.

[KRonn]

Extra diplomatic options for republics sounds very WTF.
And why extend the period to WW2? Wouldn't back to the Napoleonics be better?

Yeah, I think I'd like to see the game years start earlier, colonization started earlier. As for extending to WW2, it likely goes to 1936 like Vicky does, so it can be ported into HOI.
Going to1936 seems fine for the game's scope anyway.

[PRC]

Crazy, I thought they would have done CK2 before this.  Happy with the choice though, Victoria: Revolutions was a lot of fun to play.

[saskganesh]

There are only 3 or 4 examples of actual empires in the entire game which makes it all very....ugh.
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similarly, there's maybe a dozen countries (out of 200) in Vikkie that make for a good game. IMO, it only really shone when you played a major Imperialist power (China the one exception). even middling powers (Brazil, Mexico, Spain, Portugal, Argentina) had their issues.

Of course this means playing the CSA was a joke for the average player.

[The Minsky Moment]

As risk of channelling Neil (who really needs no augmentation) - a big issue is going to be the naval implementation, which was pretty hopelessly botched in Vicky 1.  It was kind of depressing to build huge piles of mostly useless DNs just to add prestige points.

That said, this is probably the one P-dox offering that I would buy on release at this point, just to encourage the effort if nothing else.  I am particularly pleased to see they had the balls to stick with the pop system.

[DGuller]

Would we still be able to create 6 tons of steel from 2 tons of iron and 2 tons of coal?

[saskganesh]

the AI was pretty dumb. when the Russian Navy can defeat the British, because the Brit navy sails out of port on predictable pathways at low morale immediatly on full mobilization, it's a real issue.