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Started by viper37, August 13, 2009, 02:43:25 PM

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Valmy

#60
August 14, 2009, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 14, 2009, 08:10:03 AM
Does the government actually pay for pools? I don't know of any free pools around here.  <_<

Yep.  We just walk on in.
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Caliga

#61
August 14, 2009, 08:44:14 AM
When I was a kid, all the community pools in my hometown/surrounding towns were "swim clubs" you had to pay to belong to, whereas in Philadelphia the community pools were in fact free.

We found that this was an effective way to keep the negroes out of our swimming pools. :)
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Martinus

#62
August 14, 2009, 09:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 14, 2009, 04:06:03 AM
How is separate swimming 'gender oppression' unless the women have to swim in a pool of piss?  If the service is exactly the same and it's a matter of choice then I can't see how it's an issue.  As I say a number of the people who take advantage of this are elderly women who, from their cultural context, aren't happy with swimming semi-nude with lots of men around.  A big issue in recent years has been that the NHS started to prefer mixed sex wards and elderly people (men and women), especially took a dislike to it.
I think the point is that muslim women would be coerced/pressured to participate in the female-only swimming hours by their husbands/fathers/brothers, and thus there would be no freedom of choice that you speak of.

Martinus

#63
August 14, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 14, 2009, 06:34:55 AM
Also, for what it's worth, I could see benefit in gender segregated swimming, particularly for women who are either embarassed by their looks or annoyed by people like me ogling them.

Not everything has to be Goddamned political.

On second thought, I'd go to men-only swimming hours, too.

Ed Anger

#64
August 14, 2009, 09:54:51 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 14, 2009, 09:54:22 AM


On second thought, I'd go to men-only swimming hours, too.

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Grey Fox

#65
August 14, 2009, 09:56:08 AM
I wouldn't. I want to see me some hot side boobage action.
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viper37

#66
August 14, 2009, 10:22:22 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 13, 2009, 04:17:40 PM
Swimming pool tend not to have a problem with people wearing t-shirts. Wonder why the fuss here.
No way I'm swimming with a t-shirt here at the public pool.  That's strictly forbidden.  In fact, in most outside pools it is.
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viper37

#67
August 14, 2009, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 14, 2009, 01:48:24 AM
Fair enough, but we have to remember that France also has some downsides.
They are socialists and home to a bunch of radical leftists near commies, but for the rest they have made tremendous progress to reach the 21st century. 

They now not only clean the streets&sidewalks, but more important, they now forbid smoking in public place.  Any country doing that can not be 100% bad.
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derspiess

#68
August 14, 2009, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: Caliga on August 14, 2009, 08:44:14 AM
When I was a kid, all the community pools in my hometown/surrounding towns were "swim clubs" you had to pay to belong to, whereas in Philadelphia the community pools were in fact free.

Our gated community had its own pool.  I grew up thinking all pools were like that, until a classmate had a birthday party at a public pool  :x
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derspiess

#69
August 14, 2009, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: viper37 on August 14, 2009, 10:22:22 AM
No way I'm swimming with a t-shirt here at the public pool.  That's strictly forbidden.  In fact, in most outside pools it is.

Then how do fat kids hide their shame? :o
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garbon

#70
August 14, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 14, 2009, 07:35:20 AM
What a bunch of unbelievable bullshit.  Yes the woman body is evil and men looking at it is doubly evil.  Women should be locked away and covered for their own freedom and protection.  Everytime I lust in my heart I shall ritually scourge myself.

I hear arguements like that from religious fanatics all the damn time.  Please let me know how people being sexually attracted to me makes me a sex object?  I never understood that ridiculous arguement.  Being a sex object does not mean you go to swim and some people think you are hot.  I mean does every concept have to watered down to ridiculous levels?

It can be a problem though if people refuse to take you seriously as they simply see you as sexual bait.
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#71
August 14, 2009, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 14, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
It can be a problem though if people refuse to take you seriously as they simply see you as sexual bait.

Do you need to be taken seriously at the pool?  :huh:
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garbon

#72
August 14, 2009, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 14, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
On second thought, I'd go to men-only swimming hours, too.

This basically happens already at clean gay sex clubs/bathhouses.
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garbon

#73
August 14, 2009, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 14, 2009, 12:10:30 PM
Do you need to be taken seriously at the pool?  :huh:

Maybe.
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Valmy

#74
August 14, 2009, 12:28:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 14, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
It can be a problem though if people refuse to take you seriously as they simply see you as sexual bait.

And here we have when sexualization is bad.  But seriously though what is to stop people treating others like shit for any number of reasons?  Running away and hiding because they are jerks in the world is rather ridiculous.

In any case nobody forces anybody to wear a tiny bathing suite.
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