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August 09, 2009, 06:43:34 PM Last Edit: August 09, 2009, 08:57:11 PM by Grallon
If you haven't seen this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_VaEfCwVA ) - get your torrent clients working.  I'm talking of course of Torchwood 3 - aired in Britain last july.  It's been presented as the 3rd season of Torchwood but in fact it's really a 5 episode mini-series rather than a full fledged season.  And it's a good thing since the tone of this mini is quite different from the 1st & 2nd seasons.  I dowloaded all 3 'seasons' and while I enjoyed S1, S2 had me yawning most of the time.

But with S3 - Children of Earth, I think we have one of the best written sci-fi series in a long time.  All the camp and sassiness of Torchwood S1-2 is gone.  It's real drama, it's creepy and it's good!




G.
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~Jean-François Revel

Neil

#1
August 09, 2009, 07:49:16 PM
Torchwood is also bad.
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Darth Wagtaros

#2
August 09, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Not a Torchwood fan.  I find the characters ranging between unpleasant and killworthy.  I was wishing most of them would be converted into Cybermen or eaten by Daleks.
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Strix

#3
August 09, 2009, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 09, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Not a Torchwood fan.  I find the characters ranging between unpleasant and killworthy.  I was wishing most of them would be converted into Cybermen or eaten by Daleks.

That was a good Doctor Who episode where the Torchwood chick got turned into a Cyberman.
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Josquius

#4
August 10, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
It was a strange series.
Far more actually adult than the 'omg we're talking about sex!' yet still childish at the core of the old stuff.
It still keeps Dr Who sillyness at its core and it goes a bit OTT with trying to be adult and serious but it was pretty good.
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Grallon

#5
August 10, 2009, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 10, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
It was a strange series.
Far more actually adult than the 'omg we're talking about sex!' yet still childish at the core of the old stuff.
It still keeps Dr Who sillyness at its core and it goes a bit OTT with trying to be adult and serious but it was pretty good.


Exactly.   While the first 2 seasons were B series ala Angel or Buffy this mini was much better thought out and executed.  Most of the shallowness and sassiness has been evacuated and the characters are less cardboard-ish then earlier.

Day 4 is particularly well done.



G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Razgovory

#6
August 10, 2009, 03:00:08 PM
I thought torchwood sucked.  Turns out I was right!
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swallow

#7
August 10, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 10, 2009, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 10, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
It was a strange series.
Far more actually adult than the 'omg we're talking about sex!' yet still childish at the core of the old stuff.
It still keeps Dr Who sillyness at its core and it goes a bit OTT with trying to be adult and serious but it was pretty good.


Exactly.   While the first 2 seasons were B series ala Angel or Buffy this mini was much better thought out and executed.  Most of the shallowness and sassiness has been evacuated and the characters are less cardboard-ish then earlier.

Day 4 is particularly well done.



G.
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Martinus

#8
August 10, 2009, 05:43:05 PM
Well I have been a fan of the first two seasons (I have both on DVDs), so I loved Children of Earth. What's funny, even though this is probably the best season of the show, fanboi fags everywhere are pretty much burning the screenwriter in effigy for you-know-what.

Anyway, it's one of these things Brazen recommended to me and I was happy to see. :)

Viking

#9
August 10, 2009, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 10, 2009, 03:00:08 PM
I thought torchwood sucked.  Turns out I was right!

Dunno about Gwen, but the rest of Torchwood not only sucked but took it up the ass as well.
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Grallon

#10
August 10, 2009, 06:54:53 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 10, 2009, 05:52:47 PM


Dunno about Gwen, but the rest of Torchwood not only sucked but took it up the ass as well.


They were all more or less overdoing it in S1&2 - that was the leitmotiv of the show.  But I liked Gwen quit a bit - both the character and the actress.  Oh and the young doctor - Owen.

At the end of CoE Torchwood is no more...  Although I hear they signed for a s4... However that will turn out!?!




G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Josquius

#11
August 10, 2009, 06:59:37 PM
Yeah the ending was quite a final close unless they're doing Jacks Mad Crazy Adventures in Spaaaaccceeee/Gwen leading Torchwood.
Or of course they undo it.

Who on Earth picked him up there anyway>
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Grallon

#12
August 10, 2009, 07:07:39 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 10, 2009, 06:59:37 PM
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Who on Earth picked him up there anyway>


My guess is Jack called on his old buddy/ex lover/fellow time agent Captain John Heart :)




G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Viking

#13
August 10, 2009, 09:31:06 PM
S4, yeah why not. S3 is better than S2 and S1. I think the producers realized that Torchwood doesn't have to follow Dr. Who rules. I think that, since this is a Dr. Who spinoff, the point in the episode where the TARDIS should appear but doesn't and the characters have to make morally dubious and highly risky choices and possibly fail to succede will be the best part of the episode. I hope they manage that.

The little YouTube like bit that Gwen goes on about how the world ends and that there is no doctor to save us in bad quality video can be the leitmotif of the entire show.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Brazen

#14
August 11, 2009, 04:19:29 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 10, 2009, 05:43:05 PM
Anyway, it's one of these things Brazen recommended to me and I was happy to see. :)
As in "I'm not that keen on it, but I have a GBF who'd love it!"
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