A glance at HoI3

[Tamas]

Going by that long strategy post this doesn't seem to be as much a historical simulator as it is a way of finding out how to 'game' the AI. 

If it were a Cold War game I could get into that.  But for World War 2 I'd kind of like to think that things will follow a path, and you'd have to be clever and skilled to change that.

Altough it is much less untrue here than for EU3, it is still the same bullshit: if you act in hindsight, the very first thing you destroy is the simulation value of the decision processes involved for the contemporary leaders.

[The Minsky Moment]

Here is a good post regarding diplomacy and espionage:

Sounds like a decent idea but one not implemented very efficiently.  Eg.

Make the Danes the enemies of all the world through your propaganda. Because they are small the threat will build quickly.

Why should it be easier to build threat in a smaller country?  Logically it should be the other way around - a smaller country is inherently less threatening and thus it should require more effort to convince the world that they really are dangerous despite their apparent objective innocuous.  As a practical matter, no amount of propoganda should be able to convince the nations of the world that the Despostate of King Christian is the world's greatest meance.  This is just flawed implementation and should be fixed.

Switzerland

At risk of stating the obvious, Switzerland should not be joining any wars, period, no matter what the great powers do with their intel.  The main purpose of German spies and diplomats in Switzerland should be to keep the price of smuggled, looted gold, not to prevent a surprise attack from the jack-knived armed Alphorn Militia.

[The Minsky Moment]

Still, reconsidering, this certainly solves the problem with the fact that all provinces can be invaded now, since the invader still has to capture a port in order to survive past 30 days.

IIRC this was discussed in the diaries.  Invading troops carry some invasion supply with them but basically for a large invasion you have to capture a significant port pronto or face serious supply problems.  Which is as it should be.

[Razgovory]

Is Brazil still run by communists?

[garbon]

Give us a date then to prove me wrong. 

:NDA:

Sorry but the lips of the source code team have been sealed.

[garbon]

Altough it is much less untrue here than for EU3, it is still the same bullshit: if you act in hindsight, the very first thing you destroy is the simulation value of the decision processes involved for the contemporary leaders.

Of course it is bullshit to have other countries doing things that they weren't really capable of. That pretty much pushes any simulation into fantasy.

[Tamas]

Altough it is much less untrue here than for EU3, it is still the same bullshit: if you act in hindsight, the very first thing you destroy is the simulation value of the decision processes involved for the contemporary leaders.

Of course it is bullshit to have other countries doing things that they weren't really capable of. That pretty much pushes any simulation into fantasy.

Yes as I was indicating the boundaries are way more strict than in the case of EU3, but I still say, as I was saying after the EU3 release (and was proven right) that the general approach is good and preferable over the classic event and AI file system of HoI2, it just needs fine-tuning.

[KRonn]

This game is looking better and better.   

[Norgy]

Well...

I discovered one serious game breaker.
First, I tried 1936 GCs, but they went wildly awry when National Chinos invaded all of Manchuria and Korea.
So, after looking for some free advice on the P'dox boards, I tried a 1938 campaing. Then, Japan steamrolled all of China except that Clique and joined the Axis. However, this scared the German ai from doing anything, I think, so by 1941, Europe is playing happy families, while Japan and Germany decided to declare war on, wait for it, National Chinos. Again. Apparently, despite being puppeted, raped and exploited for sushi and raw materials, the game mechanics still had not declared their alliance with those clicks null and void, and Japan in a fit of rage suitable for someone who has to live in a country where bukkake is perfectly legal and school girl uniforms and used panties are sexual aids, declared war on the unfaithful chinos.

While this probably means that I will never see WWII as the US of A, I'll probably keep playing a while longer, just to see how much goddamn technology I need to research to build a carrier that isn't made of matches and tinfoil.

[Ideologue]

someone who has to live in a country where bukkake is perfectly legal

The implication behind this statement is that Norway is not the fun place I once believed it to be.

[Viking]

someone who has to live in a country where bukkake is perfectly legal

The implication behind this statement is that Norway is not the fun place I once believed it to be.

Norway; Fun?; WTF?; FFS get into the real Norway.

[Josephus]

Isn't bukkake legal?

[Faeelin]

This game is looking better and better.   

We actually tried to get more betas in this time.

But... 200 random people from the forum..

40 of them reported at least 1 bug
20 of them were active after first week
Almost all bugs they reported were fixed.

Next game we'll just not ask people from the forum to apply, but do some invites to people that actually stick around for more than. "oops this game is not finished yet 6 months before release, i'll just leave this.".

The most ironic thing was only seeing some betas participating in some demo-threads saying "this sucks", while they had posted ZERO times in the betaforum, and reported ZERO bugs during the 6 month beta.

So do not attack the betas that stuck around and reported problems.
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[Josephus]

Not sure if I understand Johan. Is he saying that out of 200 random beta testers from the forum, only 20 remained after one week?

[ulmont]

Not sure if I understand Johan. Is he saying that out of 200 random beta testers from the forum, only 20 remained after one week?

Yes, that's what it looks like from here.