Sundering of America

[Neil]

While the South's paunch is something to be proud of, 31 BMI isnt 300 pounds.

I intend to be fat later in life myself. It is a tradition.

Isn't that the guy who writes those Song of Fire and Ice books that Martinus likes?

[ulmont]

I think the most amazing data here is the 0.42 Recruit/Population Ratio for mixed race individuals. Are they all liberals? Or do only liberals produce mulattos? Or do mixed race individuals not receive the societal re-enforcement to join that other groups might because they are not fully "in" any group.

"Mixed race" is not an option you're forced to pick.  The people who refuse to identify or be identified primarily as only one of their races are probably disproportionately liberal, while the others just feed into one of the other categories.

[Viking]

OK, I'm diving in on the 10th page, and haven't read the thread.
What I'd miss? Lettuce saving his Confederate money again?

He probably bought some Confederate Bonds at 1 cent on the dollar at some daughters of the glorious dead fundraiser.

[Darth Wagtaros]

While the South's paunch is something to be proud of, 31 BMI isnt 300 pounds.

I intend to be fat later in life myself. It is a tradition.

Isn't that the guy who writes those Song of Fire and Ice books that Martinus likes?

Actually does look like it.

[jimmy olsen]

Extremely badly, I think.

I think the most amazing data here is the 0.42 Recruit/Population Ratio for mixed race individuals. Are they all liberals? Or do only liberals produce mulattos? Or do mixed race individuals not receive the societal re-enforcement to join that other groups might because they are not fully "in" any group.

Any comments?

One drop rule, they just report themselves as African-American

[jimmy olsen]

Isn't that the guy who writes those Song of Fire and Ice books that Martinus likes?

I thought the same thing!

Maybe someone 'shopped his head on a fat guy.

[DontSayBanana]

China's a lot more important now than 20 years ago and they trade with countries with ongoing slavery so...

Though I suppose as this thread is an exercise in alt history, you and Banana could construct a scenario where the Southern US secedes today and receives a global embargo.

All I was saying is how are they gonna fuel the tractors when they realize the big oil contracts come from "brown pipple" countries?

[Eddie Teach]

This thread fails at alt history. Nobody has established a reasonable sequence of events leading to Lettow's 5 state confederacy. Without such a sequence, it's silly to say how non-viable that nation would be as it wouldn't come into being in the first place.

p.s. You're all very annoying, Lettow most of all.

[DontSayBanana]

This thread fails at alt history. Nobody has established a reasonable sequence of events leading to Lettow's 5 state confederacy. Without such a sequence, it's silly to say how non-viable that nation would be as it wouldn't come into being in the first place.

p.s. You're all very annoying, Lettow most of all.

Not interested in alt history so much as crushing Lettow's dreams of a confederate world power; just pointing out why the confederacy of his wet dreams would not be possible.

[ulmont]

This thread fails at alt history. Nobody has established a reasonable sequence of events leading to Lettow's 5 state confederacy. Without such a sequence, it's silly to say how non-viable that nation would be as it wouldn't come into being in the first place.

1) Birthers take over the legislatures of the 5 states involved (this step may already have happened).
2) Each state declares itself to be seceding due to Obama being Kenyan.
3) The rest of the country says "Please, God, just fucking leave."

p.s. You're all very annoying, Lettow most of all.

[Darth Wagtaros]

This thread fails at alt history. Nobody has established a reasonable sequence of events leading to Lettow's 5 state confederacy. Without such a sequence, it's silly to say how non-viable that nation would be as it wouldn't come into being in the first place.

p.s. You're all very annoying, Lettow most of all.

Tim is supposed to have come up with a map and a chronology.  But he is too busy.  Congrats.  You are the new Tim.

[Eddie Teach]

Tim is supposed to have come up with a map and a chronology.  But he is too busy.  Congrats.  You are the new Tim.

Chronology:
CSA loses Civil War
People get over it

Map:

[Darth Wagtaros]

That map sucks.  Fit for Paradox!

[Alcibiades]

Finally, even West Point has an even higher proportion of Southerners in it than the military itself. So there.

You are incorrect.  West Point has a higher proportion of Northeasterners than the military itself; every other region is found in higher proportion in the military generally.
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Seriously, why bother reputing his 'facts'?  He's literally made up every single one in this thread.

[citizen k]

I honestly didn't think this thread would go this long.