World Cup 2026

[Zoupa]

So the world is Spanish now right?

Yes so I can say portugal could have won, but we're beaten by the best in a close game 

Yeah, you have a stronger case now that England is out. If England had made it to the final there would always have been a question of the wire tip goal

There would never had been that question because it had no impact. You need to let it go. Even the Norwegians admitted they were well beaten on the day.

[Sheilbh]

I like Tuchel but he fucked this up big time.

Yeah I like Tuchel a lot and he has earlier changed games by subs - sometimes quite bold attacking changes that you could never imagine under Southgate making. But that reminded me of the worst of Southgate. Inviting pressure from the greatest player ever

I think as it's repeated under managers also questions about this team who have repeatedly got further than any other England teams but do seem incapable of managing out a big game (but I sort of feel that's where the manager comes in).

[HVC]

I like Tuchel but he fucked this up big time.

Before this game didn't really have an opinion of him.  At this point I feel he should be fired before the third place game just on principle.

[Sheilbh]

Before this game didn't really have an opinion of him.  At this point I feel he should be fired before the third place game just on principle.

Like Tunisia but more. I loved the detail that until this World Cup a coach had only been fired during a World Cup twice before - but one of those times was also Tunisia

I really like Tuchel I rate him a lot (despite the English press trying to stir up some discord in the camp after the Norway game). I think he's good for England but these were poor decisions - and as I say I think he made a big mistake taking Rice off at half-time against Norway and then spent all of his other subs trying to compensate for that. Hopefully he learns from it for the Euros.

But I wonder I never followed PSG and he didn't win the Champions League there which was always the goal for them, or similarly with Bayern and had issues at Chelsea too. I have no idea so do fans of those team know if this is a bit of a pattern of going too defensive/inviting pressure in big games like the business end of the Champions League?

Edit: Having said that and the discord in the camp etc being very much whipped up by the press - I do slightly wonder how big players in the team feel about him after that. I wouldn't be surprised if Bellingham and Kane etc are unhappy with his decisions.

[HVC]

Will he be around for euros? How trigger happy is the English FA?

I mean it's not like this was a A bad team that couldn't implement a sound strategy or keep up with Argentina. It was a very bad decision that he stuck to even in the obvious face of failure until after the second goal. 

It's like your companies CEO took off his pants in a board meeting and took a dump on table. It's hard to imagine the board saying good job, see you at the next meeting

*edit* that's not to say I relish someone losing their livelihood, and maybe it's just to fresh. This isn't even a team I like, but the decision was so egregiously bad and he kept compounding it. I was pulling out what little hair I have

[HVC]

Also, obligatory condolences to the languish England fans. I usually wish  bad things for your team , but this was a tough way to go down.

[Sheilbh]

I'd be very surprised if the FA fire him when he got us to a semi-final - again this is a historically succesful period for England and we kept with coaches through far worse But my only slight doubt is if there's a breakdown with key players/the dressing room. I think if they blame his decisions it might be difficult for him to come back from that.

I think he probably needs to own that he got it wrong though. But having said that Tuchel's big pitch and the attraction of him as a coach is that he's a very good tactician. And if that's what he fucks up - that's difficult. It's like if you hired Carlo Ancelotti and he kept on starting blazing rows in the dressing room and sleeping with players' wives

[Jacob]

I strongly dislike Argentina, but their shithousery was not particularly egregious in this match. Ultimately England did this to themselves.

[HVC]

I'd be very surprised if the FA fire him when he got us to a semi-final - again this is a historically succesful period for England and we kept with coaches through far worse But my only slight doubt is if there's a breakdown with key players/the dressing room. I think if they blame his decisions it might be difficult for him to come back from that.

I think he probably needs to own that he got it wrong though. But having said that Tuchel's big pitch and the attraction of him as a coach is that he's a very good tactician. And if that's what he fucks up - that's difficult. It's like if you hired Carlo Ancelotti and he kept on starting blazing rows in the dressing room and sleeping with players' wives

But this is the point one might question whether they got there despite him if these are his tactical decisions .

Oh well. Go Spain!

[Zoupa]

My second choice to add a star was England.

Not sure who to support on Sunday. Spain is definitely the more deserving of a win on their overall tournament than Argentina, imo.

Was the 3rd place game always a thing? They should scrap that. Talk about a bummer of a game for everyone involved.

[HVC]

My second choice to add a star was England.

Not sure who to support on Sunday. Spain is definitely the more deserving of a win on their overall tournament than Argentina, imo.

Was the 3rd place game always a thing? They should scrap that. Talk about a bummer of a game for everyone involved.

At least as far back as 1966.

[Sheilbh]

I strongly dislike Argentina, but their shithousery was not particularly egregious in this match. Ultimately England did this to themselves.

I agree - although I think at the end of the first half Simeone had committed about 10 fouls (I think him and Paredes between them had 15), had multiple warnings by the ref and probably should have had a yellow for persistent offending

I think there was a fair bit of shithousery in the first half - but I think generally England were on top. Less shithousery in the second half and England were stronger for ten minutes and scored. Then collapsed - and it's the collapse that matters.

[Jacob]

I strongly dislike Argentina, but their shithousery was not particularly egregious in this match. Ultimately England did this to themselves.

I agree - although I think at the end of the first half Simeone had committed about 10 fouls (I think him and Paredes between them had 15), had multiple warnings by the ref and probably should have had a yellow for persistent offending

I think there was a fair bit of shithousery in the first half - but I think generally England were on top. Less shithousery in the second half and England were stronger for ten minutes and scored. Then collapsed - and it's the collapse that matters.

Exactly.

[Jacob]

I must say I'm enjoying some of the banter on r/threelions right now

Absolutely. I've been supporting Spain for so many minutes now. Really hope they can finally pull this off

Absolutely love Spain. That Cucurella seems like a nice chap, I've always said so.

We should give the Falklands to Spain if they win 3-0

[crazy canuck]

So the world is Spanish now right?

Yes so I can say portugal could have won, but we're beaten by the best in a close game 

Yeah, you have a stronger case now that England is out. If England had made it to the final there would always have been a question of the wire tip goal

There would never had been that question because it had no impact. You need to let it go. Even the Norwegians admitted they were well beaten on the day.

It led directly to a goal, how can you say it had no impact?


And of course, the Norwegians are acting like good sports. They are good sports, but that doesn't change the fact that the ball hitting the camera wire led directly to a goal and should never have happened.