US - Greenland Crisis Thread

[mongers]

Just look at what a comparatively minnow like Israel did to Iran in one day. That's minuscule compared to what the US can do. No-one can stand up to the US in those kinds of operations, not one chance for anyone.

A lengthy occupation on the other hand, there they can be beaten, historically at least. The US used to care about laws of war and hearts and minds and shit. If they go full Russia and bust kill everyone no-one has a chance with that either.

Didn't work for them in Vietnam though.

[The Minsky Moment]

Didn't work for the US.  But didn't work so great for the Vietnamese either, or the Cambodians, or Laotians  . . .

[Zoupa]

I listened to a podcast interviewing a Cold War Viggen pilot. They normally flew around with the Soviets and generally felt that they had the upper hand and felt a bit superior. And then Nato had a big exercise with US planes stationed in Oslo and exercises close to the Swedish west coast, so naturally the Viggens were sent out. Apparently that wasn't quite as fun as going up against the Reds...

By which I mean is that nothing will matter when it comes to the US, no-one has any chance what so ever.

And Kyiv will fall in 3 days.

[Valmy]

Just look at what a comparatively minnow like Israel did to Iran in one day. That's minuscule compared to what the US can do. No-one can stand up to the US in those kinds of operations, not one chance for anyone.

A lengthy occupation on the other hand, there they can be beaten, historically at least. The US used to care about laws of war and hearts and minds and shit. If they go full Russia and bust kill everyone no-one has a chance with that either.

 

Color me skeptical our current band of corrupt buffoons can dominate everybody with ruthless efficiency.

[Threviel]

The US didn't go full out genocide, Russian style, in Vietnam...

And I don't really think they'll do that anywhere. It's just that they are so well equipped and trained and with so much resources that no-one else really can compete. There's no point planning for conflict with the US cause you'll lose whatever you do.

So Canada might as well buy Gripen, cause F-35 won't save them.

[Jacob]

The counter play - in Canada, Greenland, or anywhere else is the same as Vietnam and Afghanistan and even Iraq. A continued insurgency that elevates the cost of an extended occupation to outweigh the profit, and beyond the appetite of the American public and leadership.

A country like China may be able to push the US into a "it's not worth it" state in a head to head conflict while being able to sustain themselves, but personally I wouldn't want to bet on it.

[Valmy]

The US didn't go full out genocide, Russian style, in Vietnam...

And I don't really think they'll do that anywhere. It's just that they are so well equipped and trained and with so much resources that no-one else really can compete. There's no point planning for conflict with the US cause you'll lose whatever you do.

So Canada might as well buy Gripen, cause F-35 won't save them.

What the hell are you talking about? We lose basically all of our wars these days.