So, when *did* World War II start?

[The Minsky Moment]

There are some people who believe that the China thread, commenced much earlier, was the real start of the War. However, I think that although the China thread has been sporadically contentious and seemingly interminable, it is otherwise unrelated to the start of WW3 here. The China thread only became entangled in WW3 when it was later raised in this thread and thereby became connected to the broader conflict.  By me. Just now.

[Valmy]

I think there is a clear consensus, rare for Languish, on that point.  The only real issue now is whether Norgy was influenced in his actions by the assassination of Grand Duke Ferdinand.

ARCHDUKE! 

[Norgy]

My connections to The Black Hand are unproven! Fake news! 

[Neil]

Sure, there was a chance, and it makes for good alternate history scenarios, but the 2nd Sino-Japanese war was a major front of the World War and it was the first to begin in earnest, so I would put the beginning of the war at July 7th, 1937.

A world war doesn't have to start with blows between world powers, it can start small and slowly grow and spiral out of control.

Why not October 3rd, 1935?  Your Ethiopian erasure is unforgivable!

[The Minsky Moment]

I think there is a clear consensus, rare for Languish, on that point.  The only real issue now is whether Norgy was influenced in his actions by the assassination of Grand Duke Ferdinand.

ARCHDUKE! 

No kidding.  Treating an Austrian Archduke like some degenerate Romanov uncle?  That's that sort of thing that causes world wars right there.

[PJL]

I think there is a clear consensus, rare for Languish, on that point.  The only real issue now is whether Norgy was influenced in his actions by the assassination of Grand Duke Ferdinand.

ARCHDUKE! 

No kidding.  Treating an Austrian Archduke like some degenerate Romanov uncle?  That's that sort of thing that causes world wars right there.

I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry....

[Jacob]

There are some people who believe that the China thread, commenced much earlier, was the real start of the War. However, I think that although the China thread has been sporadically contentious and seemingly interminable, it is otherwise unrelated to the start of WW3 here. The China thread only became entangled in WW3 when it was later raised in this thread and thereby became connected to the broader conflict.  By me. Just now.

I think we need to go back a bit further than that:

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move

[PJL]

As for the when WW2 started, well there's an argument for 1792 being the start date.

[Sheilbh]

As for the when WW2 started, well there's an argument for 1792 being the start date.

My favourite "very long 19th century" was 1789 to 1989

[The Minsky Moment]

I think we need to go back a bit further than that:

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move

Stop distracting us and making excuses Jacob.  We all know you started that China thread.  The blood is on your hands.

[Jacob]

Stop distracting us and making excuses Jacob.  We all know you started that China thread.  The blood is on your hands.

I had no choice!

You could all have ignored the thread, but instead you responded!

[crazy canuck]

Stop distracting us and making excuses Jacob.  We all know you started that China thread.  The blood is on your hands.

I had no choice!

You could all have ignored the thread, but instead you responded!

Sure, blame us victims

[Jacob]

Sure, blame us victims

Victims? Co-conspirators, more like it.

[Syt]

I think there is a clear consensus, rare for Languish, on that point.  The only real issue now is whether Norgy was influenced in his actions by the assassination of Grand Duke Ferdinand.

ARCHDUKE! 

No kidding.  Treating an Austrian Archduke like some degenerate Romanov uncle?  That's that sort of thing that causes world wars right there.

I mean, at least the Grand Duke was actually a GRAND Duke:



Archduke Franz Ferdinand was not much of an arch.

[HVC]

Don't let that fool you, that's just two kids in a trench coat