Iran War?

[Legbiter]

Are his goons/ henchmen not telling him what's going on, because this latest outburst:

The Iranians can launch shaheds from Toyota Hilux's into oil tankers and Gulf infrastructure basically indefinitely. Whenever the Americans tire of this war they can ring up Oman and do a status quo ante bellum in about 15 minutes.

[Grey Fox]

There are still chances that ending the Terrorist theocracy can have some good consequences.

Well let me know when it ends.

As for terrorist regimes, we just blew up a girl's school and made it rain oil. I don't recall Iran ever doing anything like that to us.

Iran is responsible for the rise of Islam fundamentalism for the past 40 years. Less horrible, much more damaging for society.

Don't blame yourself for the action of Israel and the mistake of the Harbinger of the end of time.

[Jacob]

Saw a thing where Iran allegedly promises safe transit of the Hormuz Strait for European and Middle Eastern countries if they expel their local US ambassador...

[Neil]

Plus, of course, the issue of gun system saturation by large-scale drone attacks where "they can get some of us, but not all of us."

This is obviously a problem for missile-based defence too, when we're talking about cheap drones versus expensive interceptors. 

But yeah, something big like an airbase would be a nightmare to adequately cover with guns.

[viper37]

who was going to counter attack the sub off the coast of Sri Lanka?

Presumably any other Iranian ship or aircraft.  It's pretty paper thin, but it's enough. 

No, it's not enough. There were no other Iranian ships or aircraft anywhere near that area. The United States Navy knew that.

This is in no way analogies to what happened during the Falkland war.

Yes, it is.  The submarine commander does not have perfect knowledge of the battlespace, nor is he obligated to act as if he does.  He's within theoretical range of maritime patrol aircraft.  He's attacking an enemy warship.  A warship is inarguably a legitimate target, not just a Hegseth 'we shoot anything that moves' target.  The problem here isn't the actions of the submarine, but rather the political decision to go to war (or police action, or whatever) with Iran.

There was a patrol craft in the area just before the attack, to spot the ship before it departed.

They knew it was alone.  Besides, modern subs have sophiscated radars & comms now, unlike U-boats.

[viper37]

I'd say Trump has lost this war and just about obliterated his presidency. And I don't know if he can just declare victory. Iranians will have a say in that as well.

They're talking of conscription in the US.  Well, Leavitt said they're not ruling out a draft.

The war will last until the election so he can have riots and send troops to Blue States.

[viper37]

Interesting. Apparently, the negotiations were going well.  Even further than under Obama.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/full-transcript-omani-foreign-minister-badr-albusaidi/

[crazy canuck]

That is probably why Israel pushed Trump into attacking