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Quo Vadis, Democrats?

Started by Syt, November 13, 2024, 01:00:21 PM

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Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on June 14, 2025, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on June 14, 2025, 08:01:33 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 06:24:12 PMI'm not sure what left you're even talking about.

It's especially mind boggling on a day where 2 Democrat legislators were killed by a goptard.
Raz Fetterman only care about one thing these days. Everything else is only useful as it connects to that.

It seems the socialism of fools is socialism enough for some.  Just hold your nose at the smell of burning flesh.

Are you referencing a recent specific event? I'm so lost.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 14, 2025, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on June 14, 2025, 08:01:33 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 06:24:12 PMI'm not sure what left you're even talking about.

It's especially mind boggling on a day where 2 Democrat legislators were killed by a goptard.
Raz Fetterman only care about one thing these days. Everything else is only useful as it connects to that.

It seems the socialism of fools is socialism enough for some.  Just hold your nose at the smell of burning flesh.

Are you referencing a recent specific event? I'm so lost.
Yeah, some asshole set a bunch of Jews on fire.  We had the assassination of two members of a two Israeli diplomatic staff and an attempt to burn down governor's mansion in Pennsylvanian while the governor was celebrating Passover.  Your friends burning cars, Unity of Fields, previously known as Palestine Action, are quite happy with this.

I'm getting the impression that the assassination of the Democratic legislature is bad is not because murder is bad but the assassin targeted the wrong type of people.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

I don't think the protests about ICE have anything to do with Jewish people or Israel  :huh: . Believe what you will. Not every event in the world needs to be viewed through your single-issue prism.

Sophie Scholl

Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 10:24:20 PMI don't think the protests about ICE have anything to do with Jewish people or Israel  :huh: . Believe what you will. Not every event in the world needs to be viewed through your single-issue prism.
Razlow's Hammer
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

HVC

You know Raz, there are Jewish hispanics too  :Joos they're the cool ones too :D
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 10:24:20 PMI don't think the protests about ICE have anything to do with Jewish people or Israel  :huh: . Believe what you will. Not every event in the world needs to be viewed through your single-issue prism.
No, but the car burning were.  They appear to be have been called up and torched by the Unity of Fields guys.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on June 14, 2025, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 10:24:20 PMI don't think the protests about ICE have anything to do with Jewish people or Israel  :huh: . Believe what you will. Not every event in the world needs to be viewed through your single-issue prism.
Razlow's Hammer
So were you cool with the assassination of the Diplomatic staff?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on June 14, 2025, 10:43:34 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 10:24:20 PMI don't think the protests about ICE have anything to do with Jewish people or Israel  :huh: . Believe what you will. Not every event in the world needs to be viewed through your single-issue prism.
No, but the car burning were.  They appear to be have been called up and torched by the Unity of Fields guys.

Ok?

Tamas

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 14, 2025, 08:37:38 PMAh.

I still have no idea what you are referencing. Pussy civil war? What?

I don't know what Yi means exactly but it reminded me of the mindset I for long shaded with many. Every time a few thousand people would demonstrate against something the Orban government did (big demonstration by the scale of the times) I would be glued to the news and the livw feed if it got somewhat violent, hoping for... I  not sure what. But obviously those protests didn't change the fact that Orban had taken over all branches of power and that a single night of tug of war with riot police in the big city would absolutely not affect his main support base in rural areas.

I still think the protesters deserve respect because they at least tried something, but also clearly without broader support and the willingness to fight (literally) until power is wrestled from the autocrat, the protests just ended up blending into the feedback loop of the Orban system - let the steam out, go home.

I have no idea what's the solution though. Sometimes you are just on the losing side I guess.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Oexmelin on June 14, 2025, 08:37:38 PMAh.

I still have no idea what you are referencing. Pussy civil war? What?

In real civil war you accept the risk of dying in exchange for the chance of change that you favor.  In the pussy version you engage in lesser levels of performative violence without the risk of dying.

Jacob

I expect Americans are going to die during these protests soon enough.

Oexmelin

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 14, 2025, 11:55:48 PMIn real civil war you accept the risk of dying in exchange for the chance of change that you favor.  In the pussy version you engage in lesser levels of performative violence without the risk of dying.

I fail to see what relevance this characterization has with anything.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Admiral Yi

If you start reading from post 589 and come to a point where the relationship between your post and my post is not clear, I will be happy to clarify.

Oexmelin

Que le grand cric me croque !

Admiral Yi

Please tell me at what point you were confused.