Quo Vadis, Democrats?

[DGuller]

So we shouldn't criticize the burning of cars by the "Hamas Marxist Army"?  We may as well give into the worst impulses of the left?

Respectfully Raz you missed the point.  We should all treat the "Hamas Marxist Army" like the gang of violent loons that they are, all three of them.  Along with the Marxist Army of Hamas, the Army of Hamas Marxists, and the Popular People's Front of Hamas Marxists.  But liberals need to break with the solipsistic delusion that the entire future of American politics turns on the precise tone they use when criticizing some fringe group on the left.  The reality is that almost no-one cares or is even listening other than a handful of other liberals.

You're assuming their audience is the right.  Their audience usually is and should be the left, to get it through their echo chamber that they are alienating bigger and bigger share of people.  If you're going to be intolerantly dogmatic, then at least be intolerantly dogmatic in a way that appeals to people to people outside of your orbit rather than repel them.

[Darth Wagtaros]

So we shouldn't criticize the burning of cars by the "Hamas Marxist Army"?  We may as well give into the worst impulses of the left?

Respectfully Raz you missed the point.  We should all treat the "Hamas Marxist Army" like the gang of violent loons that they are, all three of them.  Along with the Marxist Army of Hamas, the Army of Hamas Marxists, and the Popular People's Front of Hamas Marxists.  But liberals need to break with the solipsistic delusion that the entire future of American politics turns on the precise tone they use when criticizing some fringe group on the left.  The reality is that almost no-one cares or is even listening other than a handful of other liberals.

You're assuming their audience is the right.  Their audience usually is and should be the left, to get it through their echo chamber that they are alienating bigger and bigger share of people.  If you're going to be intolerantly dogmatic, then at least be intolerantly dogmatic in a way that appeals to people to people outside of your orbit rather than repel them.

Why stop now?  Obama had come out of nowhere, were it not for him they'd have lost the presidency in 2008, 2012, and 2020 as well. 

[Zoupa]

The only cars I saw burning were those waymo things. I'm fine with it.

Where is your line?

I don't know. I proceed in a case by case basis. I've seen no evidence that those waymo cars were set alight. EVs do have a tendency to combust on their own.

[Admiral Yi]

Respectfully Raz you missed the point.  We should all treat the "Hamas Marxist Army" like the gang of violent loons that they are, all three of them.  Along with the Marxist Army of Hamas, the Army of Hamas Marxists, and the Popular People's Front of Hamas Marxists.  But liberals need to break with the solipsistic delusion that the entire future of American politics turns on the precise tone they use when criticizing some fringe group on the left.  The reality is that almost no-one cares or is even listening other than a handful of other liberals.

My impression at the time is that more people cared about Bill Clinton throwiing Sister Souljah under the bus than a handful of liberals.

[HVC]

The only cars I saw burning were those waymo things. I'm fine with it.

Where is your line?

I don't know. I proceed in a case by case basis. I've seen no evidence that those waymo cars were set alight. EVs do have a tendency to combust on their own.

What'd waymo do though, to illicit the ire of both you and the protesters? It's like there was a fight and one of the guys punched the bystander with glasses standing against the wall .  I'd be more inclined to shrug if it was ice transports or something.

[Zoupa]

The only cars I saw burning were those waymo things. I'm fine with it.

Where is your line?

I don't know. I proceed in a case by case basis. I've seen no evidence that those waymo cars were set alight. EVs do have a tendency to combust on their own.

What'd waymo do though, to illicit the ire of both you and the protesters? It's like there was a fight and one of the guys punched the bystander with glasses standing against the wall .  I'd be more inclined to shrug if it was ice transports or something.

I'm not sure what waymo did, if anything. Could be a malfunction, foreign agents, Maga provocateurs, false flag actions etc. A thourough investigation is needed.

[HVC]

I assumed you thought it was the protesters since you were fine with it. But it's good to know you're fine with false flags and right wing provocations too

[Zoupa]

It's just a car. Unclutch your panties.

[HVC]

It's just a car. Unclutch your panties.

I was just asking a question, you were the one that got weirdly defensive  

[chipwich]

It's just terroristic arson who cares whatever.

[garbon]

It's just a car. Unclutch your panties.

I was just asking a question, you were the one that got weirdly defensive   

I'm not sure he is. Trump is destroying people's lives but pearl clutch at some destroyed cars?

That said in this era, I'm not sure there's much fun in mocking Republicans by using their own rhetoric. Just depressing all the way down.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't think more colorful insults will change the minds of people who respect property.

[Zoupa]

"Won't someone think of the driverless cars owned by the multibillion corporation?" 

[Admiral Yi]

But tired and stale insults just might do the trick.

[Zoupa]

The only metric I care about is whether I'm amused.