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Europa Universalis V confirmed

Started by Syt, February 28, 2024, 12:27:05 PM

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The Minsky Moment

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DGuller

Looks like my CtDs were a blessing in disguise, frankly I think the complexity of EU5 far outstrips the abilities of Paradox to ever balance it. 

This reminds me of a case in a very different genre:  iRacing in sim-racing.  Their lead physics modeler couldn't give up on the ambition of building a tire behavior model entirely from first principles, despite the fact that even for tire companies tire behavior is still a bit of a black box.  The more he tried to fix it from first principles, the more he uncovered different modes where tire behavior went completely off the rails.

Josephus

Ugh....I have an erratic ruler giving me an event each bloody year that drops my legitimacy by 5. Now I'm getting coups which happens when legit. drops below 30. And he's still fucking 50 years old.
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Valmy

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Quote from: DGuller on Today at 12:02:39 PMLooks like my CtDs were a blessing in disguise, frankly I think the complexity of EU5 far outstrips the abilities of Paradox to ever balance it. 

We'll see. I think it is really good.

But the main issue is that there are so many aspects to the game that could be explored as a player but that damn thing just plays so slowly and there is so much to do I feel like I will never have time to really come to grips with like I could with EU2. You can't just put it on fast speed and zoom to the next point of interest. You have to constantly be doing shit.

I do like the ability to automate aspects but...I don't know. It is hard to just give up the levers to key things.

Also the character system. Too many damn characters that take up too much of my time and they don't die enough. And you benefit from making lots of them. But it makes your game borderline unplayable.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on Today at 12:02:39 PMLooks like my CtDs were a blessing in disguise, frankly I think the complexity of EU5 far outstrips the abilities of Paradox to ever balance it. 

This reminds me of a case in a very different genre:  iRacing in sim-racing.  Their lead physics modeler couldn't give up on the ambition of building a tire behavior model entirely from first principles, despite the fact that even for tire companies tire behavior is still a bit of a black box.  The more he tried to fix it from first principles, the more he uncovered different modes where tire behavior went completely off the rails.

No, the game is great.  You are missing out.
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Josephus

I agree with what Valmy said two posts above. It IS a great game, but yeah, there's no doubt I'm missing out on things; there's just soooo much stuff. I am only automating two things right now: Trade and methods of production.
I don't really bother with characters so much yet. I educate just boys in my direct lineage (sons or grandsons of my rulers).
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Valmy

It really is crazy. I would love to spend some time in Japan. Or as a Horde. Or in the Balkans. Or the HRE. Or really  get into some of the mechanics around Catholicism. Or explore some different aspects of colonization or trade being the Netherlands or Portugal. And what about India? Or even LOL can I be: Ottoman Empire? Wow so many interesting styles of play and areas to explore.

But I will barely be able to do any of that. I could play for 12 hours and barely get through 100 years. Goddamn.
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt


The Minsky Moment

They fixed up Vic 3 pretty good; they'll fix up EU5 once they calm down and stop course correcting by spinning the wheel wildly in the opposite direction.   Like I keep saying, around 1.12 or so.
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--Woodrow Wilson

Valmy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 04:08:13 PMThey fixed up Vic 3 pretty good; they'll fix up EU5 once they calm down and stop course correcting by spinning the wheel wildly in the opposite direction.   Like I keep saying, around 1.12 or so.

Sure. But EUV is perfectly functional and fun to play now. And even if there are balance issues the damn thing plays so slowly it will take you tons of hours for them to bother you.

And that last point isn't ever changing.
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