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Started by Jacob, February 12, 2025, 04:37:35 PM

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The Brain

Quote from: Jacob on February 19, 2025, 10:15:30 PMI saw a claim that Teump is giving the EU three weeks to agree to his Ukraine deal or he withdraws troops from Europe.

Of course, others have said there are no intention to withdraw.

Exciting times, that's for sure.

US troops being withdrawn voluntarily seems great. We don't need fifth columnists in the coming war.

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Quote from: Jacob on February 19, 2025, 10:15:30 PMI saw a claim that Teump is giving the EU three weeks to agree to his Ukraine deal or he withdraws troops from Europe.

Of course, others have said there are no intention to withdraw.

Exciting times, that's for sure.

This is as if your partner threatens you that they're going to leave you if you don't do X.

Now look - if X is something you know you should be doing anyways, that might be something.

But if it's "We're going for vacation in Mexico or I'm leaving" the relationship is over.  They will continue to pull that threat over and over until it's a demand you can no longer tolerate.
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Quote from: The Brain on February 20, 2025, 10:25:44 AMUS troops being withdrawn voluntarily seems great. We don't need fifth columnists in the coming war.

It's better to have no friend than a friend who is a traitor. It's better to have no lifeboat than a broken lifeboat.

And having the Slovaks and Hungarians around is bad enough.

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Zanza

Quote from: Jacob on February 19, 2025, 10:15:30 PMI saw a claim that Teump is giving the EU three weeks to agree to his Ukraine deal or he withdraws troops from Europe.

Of course, others have said there are no intention to withdraw.

Exciting times, that's for sure.
Bye.

Jacob

Quote from: Zanza on February 20, 2025, 02:02:53 PMBye.

Yeah I don't see Europe conceding on this.

It'll be interesting to see if this is a real ultimatum and whether there'll be follow through, whether it was a trial balloon, or whether it's full on misinformation.

Zanza

Is there even any deal under discussion?

I only read news about Americans surrendering to Russia. Very bad, but what can the EU contribute to this American sell out?

Josephus

Quote from: Zanza on February 20, 2025, 02:41:38 PMIs there even any deal under discussion?

I only read news about Americans surrendering to Russia. Very bad, but what can the EU contribute to this American sell out?

Euro leaders are visiting HRH Trump in the near future; I imagine there will be a lot of curtsies and kowtowing.
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grumbler

Quote from: Jacob on February 19, 2025, 10:15:30 PMI saw a claim that Teump is giving the EU three weeks to agree to his Ukraine deal or he withdraws troops from Europe.

Of course, others have said there are no intention to withdraw.

Exciting times, that's for sure.

What deal is this that they are supposed to accept?  I smell an overly-dramatic MEP.
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Quote from: Josephus on February 20, 2025, 03:18:23 PMEuro leaders are visiting HRH Trump in the near future; I imagine there will be a lot of curtsies and kowtowing.
Duda is first going tonight I believe, Starmer next week, Macron the week after. I imagine very coordinated (with lots of consultation) at the European level. It certainly doesn't seem like an accident that the three leaders going are all from countries that meet the current NATO target and can be said to take defence reasonably seriously.

Then obviously St Patrick's Day so the Taoiseach and Tanaiste will be at the White House.
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