New Paradox Tinto Game - "Project Caesar"

[crazy canuck]

Everybody here probably already has it, but just in case - the starter pack for EUIV is 90% off on steam.

[Josquius]

The current big EU 4 sale does make me suspect a eu5 announcement is imminent

[Syt]

They've posted the world maps:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-maps-special-edition-6th-of-january-2025-the-world.1724921/

[The Minsky Moment]

Mississippian culture not considered settled, it seems.

[Syt]

I'm curious about the locations/provinces distinction. I'm guessing it will be similar to the baronies/counties system in CK3, combined with the "split state" mechanics of Vic 3. So generally, the locations will be part of a province and will always be part of the bundle, but at game start, some of the provinces may be split to reflect historical realities - over time the provinces will become consolidated.

(I find it slightly annoying that in Vic3 you can start with split states, but no new split states can be created later. I know it would probably be a nightmare to design and balance, but it irks me )

[Zanza]

I'm curious about the locations/provinces distinction. I'm guessing it will be similar to the baronies/counties system in CK3, combined with the "split state" mechanics of Vic 3. So generally, the locations will be part of a province and will always be part of the bundle, but at game start, some of the provinces may be split to reflect historical realities - over time the provinces will become consolidated.

I doubt that. The provinces are slightly bigger than the current EU IV provinces. And most of the mechanics so far seem to be based on locations, e.g. buildings or pops, both of which seem core gameplay elements.

[Zanza]

Mississippian culture not considered settled, it seems.

Wasn't Cahokia in terminal decline by 1337?

I didn't get their design for Japanese daimyos or why they have a few Manchu vassals in an otherwise centralist Yuan.

[crazy canuck]

Mississippian culture not considered settled, it seems.

I think the Haida and Nisga'a, amongst others, would have an even stronger argument, with the benefit of still being around to make it.

[crazy canuck]

And I realize that the map can't be perfect, but it seems they have missed some important harbours that played a significant historical role - Victoria harbour, for one. It's the reason Victoria is our province's capital and not Vancouver.

[The Minsky Moment]

Mississippian culture not considered settled, it seems.

Wasn't Cahokia in terminal decline by 1337?

Cahokia yes, but other settlements were growing as it declined.

[Syt]

This map "buildings based countries" caught my eyes - in Europe it's easy - Hanseatic contors (though there should be one in Bergen, I think?)

But Japan? Daimyo castles?

(Canada is a placeholder thing according to Johan)

[Zanza]

Yes, was described a bit in the Japan maps dev diary.