Israel-Hamas War 2023

[OttoVonBismarck]

The goal of the campus Jew-haters: To render Israel indefensible, in both senses of the word

All 5 of them?

Good luck!

Fuck off Nazi.

[Admiral Yi]

I remember plenty of protests against war that turned violent.

I do remember reading about riots during the US Civil War and then during the Vietnam war.

Between a riot an "Burn tel Aviv to the ground"  I think I'll take the moron with the hate speech.

Besides, isn't hate speech protected in the US?  Isn't this a value deer to the right and particularly the GOP and its supporters, without any limits?

"Kill the enemy" is not an anti war slogan.  It's a pro war slogan.

It's a radical leftist slogan.  People who destroy property, people who attack cops and journalists, people who set fire to everything they find their hands on.  People who believe it's a wise idea to guillotine bankers and seize their money.  That sort of people.

It's hardly new or exclusive to the Pro-Palestinian camp.

And as I said, your country believes in absolute free speech.  Hate speech should be tolerated according to most Americans, we've had this discussion before.  Don't act all offended when it does not go the way you want it.

Just print your own sign saying you'll burn Teheran to the ground and organize a counter protest with OvB and Raz.  Print some saying all of Gaza should be depopulated.  I don't know.  It's your country, it's legal.

Just don't have people come here whining about that hate speech crap.

I don't want to print a sign saying I'll burn Tehran to the ground.  First because I couldn't do it, and second because I believe that would make me a bad person.

I will continue to come here and express my negative judgement of protestors who call for more dead Israelis.  You can call it whining if you want but I see things differently.

[Razgovory]

Anyway, I found the a video of these chants.  https://twitter.com/DSchwammenthal/status/1782065763932659860?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR00L0oDPrC5C7K0NBccJOo2EzNlfg_ChWd9hVQ6nmKS9rON0os6_40YyFA_aem_AZMikf4OSHTUVB19wFq1Mbj6nzO5zUWtcD7iJ2g7qgvJe-Xbt4Ogp4u-ec1_dWsL0wGyrR6zJuGNlMrn0_rEcuSc

[viper37]

I will continue to come here and express my negative judgement of protestors who call for more dead Israelis.  You can call it whining if you want but I see things differently.

OvB and Raz are certainly whining and making a fuss about a few protestors.

I think this is a better answer.

[viper37]

The goal of the campus Jew-haters: To render Israel indefensible, in both senses of the word

All 5 of them?

Good luck!

Fuck off Nazi.

President Donald Trump maintained he "answered perfectly" when he said there were "very fine people on both sides" of clashes at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

[Admiral Yi]

I will continue to come here and express my negative judgement of protestors who call for more dead Israelis.  You can call it whining if you want but I see things differently.

OvB and Raz are certainly whining and making a fuss about a few protestors.

I think this is a better answer.

Their actions don't constitute whining IMO either.

[viper37]

I will continue to come here and express my negative judgement of protestors who call for more dead Israelis.  You can call it whining if you want but I see things differently.

OvB and Raz are certainly whining and making a fuss about a few protestors.

I think this is a better answer.

Their actions don't constitute whining IMO either.

Let's agree to disagree on that.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Also no one but viper, a well known imbecile, has raised any 1A issues. Literally no one is saying people don't have a right to be Nazis. I am condemning them for that—which is also my right.

People from low freedom countries where the population is too stupid to handle free expression generally can't understand that nuance.

[Admiral Yi]

Let's agree to disagree on that.

Can't do it.

[Josquius]

I don't want to print a sign saying I'll burn Tehran to the ground.  First because I couldn't do it, and second because I believe that would make me a bad person.

I will continue to come here and express my negative judgement of protestors who call for more dead Israelis.  You can call it whining if you want but I see things differently.

The issue isn't whether these people are cunts. They obviously are.
Its those pointing to them and going "See! See! Anyone who dares to speak against Israel is like this! Anti zionism is anti semitism!"
Its like saying there's no difference between those criticising the Saudi or Iranian regime and the "muslims are subhuman and should all be killed" brigade

[grumbler]

One of the problems for the Raz/OvB "you are all Nazis or Iranian useful idiots if you have any sympathy for the Palestinians" position is that the most useful idiot for the Iranians is named Benjamin Netanyahu.  Both the Iranians and the Israeli government are working hard to "to render Israel indefensible, in both senses of the word."

[OttoVonBismarck]

Attempts to use Netanyahu to whitewash Nazism / antisemitism is not going to work.

A country having a poor leader doesn't justify their people being genocided or struck with terrorist attacks. It does not undermine the country's legitimate right to exist.

[viper37]

I don't want to print a sign saying I'll burn Tehran to the ground.  First because I couldn't do it, and second because I believe that would make me a bad person.

I will continue to come here and express my negative judgement of protestors who call for more dead Israelis.  You can call it whining if you want but I see things differently.

The issue isn't whether these people are cunts. They obviously are.
Its those pointing to them and going "See! See! Anyone who dares to speak against Israel is like this! Anti zionism is anti semitism!"
Its like saying there's no difference between those criticising the Saudi or Iranian regime and the "muslims are subhuman and should all be killed" brigade

This.

[grumbler]

Attempts to use Netanyahu to whitewash Nazism / antisemitism is not going to work.

A country having a poor leader doesn't justify their people being genocided or struck with terrorist attacks. It does not undermine the country's legitimate right to exist.

Netanyahu doesn't "whitewash" Nazism, he echoes it.  And the bit about poor leaders not justifying their people getting genocided or struck with terrorist attacks is the point pro-Palestinian moderates are trying to make and Zionists are trying to deny.  "[Having a poor leader] does not undermine the country's legitimate right to exist"  That's exactly the point of the moderate pro-Palestinians are trying to make, and the arch-Zionists deny. There's no excuse for violence against innocents on either side.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Point fails--no one is genociding Palestinians. That is part of a false narrative intended to delegitimize Israel.

The current war is one of the least deadly in modern times.

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