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2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

Started by Syt, May 25, 2023, 02:23:01 AM

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Josquius

I had a horrid headache and couldn't sleep last night so ended up watching a bit of it and falling half asleep with it playing.
I remember Walz as a super Mario movie style creature with a huge body and tiny head. So maybe I wasn't entirely with it.
But I do remember his speech was good.
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garbon

How easily he falls for the bait. Also love the bit in bold.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4839905-trump-mocks-allies-obama-attacks/

QuoteTrump hits back at Obamas: 'Do I still have to stick to policy?'

Former President Trump on Wednesday mocked allies who suggested he should not engage in personal attacks, pointing to fiery speeches a night earlier from former President Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama at the Democratic convention.

"Did you see Barack Hussein Obama last night? He was taking shots at your president. And so was Michelle," Trump told supporters at a North Carolina rally.

"You know, they always say, 'Sir, please stick to policy, don't get personal,'" Trump continued. "And yet they're getting personal all night long, these people. Do I still have to stick to policy?"

Trump then imitated allies who have urged him not to engage in personal insults.

"Sir, you must stick to policy. You'll win it on the border. You'll win it with inflation. You'll win it with your great military that you built," Trump said.

Trump and the Obamas have been political rivals for years, but there has also been personal animosity because of Trump pushing the false conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

Obama also saw Trump defeat Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2016, despite his backing for his former secretary of State.

The Obamas served as the keynote speakers during the second night of the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday, electrifying the crowd and delivering a stinging rebuke of Trump in the process.

Michelle Obama, making a rare public appearance, accused Trump of trying to make Americans fear her and her husband. And she slammed him as someone who has benefited from generational wealth and doesn't understand hard work.

"His limited, narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard-working, highly educated, successful people who happen to be Black," Michelle Obama said. "I want to know — I want to know — who's going to tell him, who's going to tell him, that the job he is currently seeking might just be one of those 'Black jobs'?"

Former President Obama likened Trump to an annoying neighbor with a leaf blower and argued the GOP nominee was only interested in serving himself.

"Here's a 78-year-old billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problems since he rode down his golden escalator nine years ago," Obama said.

"It has been a constant stream of gripes and grievances that's actually been getting worse now that he is afraid of losing to Kamala. There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, this weird obsession with crowd sizes," he added, making a hand gesture that implied he was mocking Trump's manhood.

Trump has heard criticism from other Republicans who argue he should make less personality-based attacks on Vice President Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, and focus on policy.

Harris has quickly closed a polling edge that Trump had enjoyed over President Biden when he was still his presumed opponent.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: garbon on August 22, 2024, 04:33:26 AM
QuoteTrump hits back at Obamas: 'Do I still have to stick to policy?'

"stick?"  :lol:
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--Joan Robinson

Valmy

Ok now I wait for a post-convention bump.

Still nervous as fuck about this election.
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grumbler

Great line from Pete Buttigeig (referencing what he called the major theme of the Republican campaign): "I just don't think that America is in the market for darkness."
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crazy canuck

Loved the football metaphor in Walz's speech.  He is speaking the language of the voters they need to attract to win.

Syt

On the "white guy taco" thing - Ben Shapiro was pointing out that white guys liking bland food was nonsense, because if it were true, why did Europeans get involved in the spice trade???

Which makes me think that Ben read Roger Crowley's latest book that came out a few months ago (or at least knows of its existence), and for some reason that kinda annoys me. :D

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/205461942-spice
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HVC

That was the periphery of Europe. Central and Eastern Europe stayed far away from spices... just like now, come to think about it :D
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

The Minsky Moment

So on brand for an American right-wing ideologue to try to infer a broad cultural trend from the consumption patterns of a tiny wealthy elite, not shared by the vast majority of the population.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Josquius

I have no idea what this white taco thing is about but it needs restating French tacos are amazing and I wish I knew what happened with their sudden appearance and disappearance here.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Josquius on August 22, 2024, 01:44:52 PMI have no idea what this white taco thing is about but it needs restating French tacos are amazing and I wish I knew what happened with their sudden appearance and disappearance here.
An abomination.
Let's bomb Russia!

OttoVonBismarck

Can we please not have Brits talking about tacos. We will cede to you mastery of boiled meats, toast sandwiches and other such things. But you are outside your wheelhouse on Mexican food.

HVC

You forgot beans on things that shouldn't have beans on them.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

As the name suggests, French tacos have nothing to do with us :P
Let's bomb Russia!

Josquius

French cuisine is supposed to be respected.
This is their best dish.
Respect it.
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