The AI dooooooom thread

[crazy canuck]

Ye olde R-R Excel error thread: https://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,9694.msg565989.html#msg565989

Reihart-Rogoff!  Yeah that was a memorable one.  That paper already had serious issues before the Excel error came out, and it was compounded by the fact that even taking it on its face, it was cited for broader propositions than it ever really stood for.

And to bring us back on topic, is it any wonder AI tools are so unreliable when they were trained on this sort of material?

[mongers]

Leaving aside my feigned ignorance of what the Pope said, I seems notable that he chose to make it in concert with the Anthropic CEO chap, who also had some interesting things to say.

[Norgy]

I have been using Fitbit devices for about a decade plus to track physical activity. It was never going to be good news when Google bought them, and now the app is chock full of an AI coach. The familiar interface, all historical data and some functionality has been wiped, and replaced by... junk.

Fuck you all, tech bros. I hope your robots eat you.

[PJL]

I have been using Fitbit devices for about a decade plus to track physical activity. It was never going to be good news when Google bought them, and now the app is chock full of an AI coach. The familiar interface, all historical data and some functionality has been wiped, and replaced by... junk.

Fuck you all, tech bros. I hope your robots eat you.

Like I've said before, I'm increasingly having the same opinion of the tech bros as I have of the marketing department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.

[Syt]

Like I've said before, I'm increasingly having the same opinion of the tech bros as I have of the marketing department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.

They're a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

[crazy canuck]

Microsoft dropped the anthropic licenses. It was using internally.  Why?  Because it's too expensive for the benefit it produces.

If one of the most wealthy companies in the world cannot use AI tools economically, who can?

[Syt]

Meanwhile, Claude has become the Holy Grail in our company. "Ugh, ChatGPT ... can I get Claude access? But please without token limits."

[crazy canuck]

My kind of AI

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY9rEssxgA3/?igsh=d256ZGM2ejg3OHNy

[Sheilbh]

Fascinating article on impact on software engineering with lots of interviews from people in the industry and universities - interesting because from everything I've read (but also just speaking to engineers) this is the cutting edge:
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/software-engineering-teach-us-ai-future-work

[crazy canuck]

I think the article accurately describes what is happening now, but I disagree with your inference that it is the way of the future.

What is happening now is the competition for experienced coders has increased dramatically because they are the only ones who can spot when the AI is making mistakes. Salaries for those workers are increasing fairly dramatically.  And I would say unsustainably because of the savings in using the AI is negligible or nonexistent and so really what is happening is the overall cost of the company has increased due to the cost of the AI tool licensing and the increased salaries of the people needed to be hired to make sure mistakes aren't being made.

As a sidenote, productivity is also going down because so much time is spent tracking down the errors and trying to fix them.

[Josquius]

I've seen a lot of claims the tech firing they're blaming  on AI is mostly just the standard cycle after over hiring during the pandemic and the ending of Biden era subsidies.
Blaming AI helps them with HR and let's them promote a thing they have a hand in selling.