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Started by Hamilcar, April 06, 2023, 12:44:43 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josquius on Today at 02:07:40 AMVertical integration is where the same company owns multiple steps of the supply chain.
A company which owns the farm, the factory, and the supermarket.
In Googles case they own absolutely everything around advertising. Buyer software, seller, exchange.... It's all Google.
Breaking them up could mean focusing on this behind the scenes bit.
But even breaking up the public facing parts of the business would weaken their hold on the advertising market. At the the least takes some seller space away from them, but also weakens the amount of data they have to offer in the buyer tools.

I don't know what "breaking them up could mean focusing on this behind the scenes bit"  means.

Why do you want to weaken their hold on the advertising market?  They're a near monopoly in search, not in advertising.

Josquius

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:29:32 AM
Quote from: Josquius on Today at 02:07:40 AMVertical integration is where the same company owns multiple steps of the supply chain.
A company which owns the farm, the factory, and the supermarket.
In Googles case they own absolutely everything around advertising. Buyer software, seller, exchange.... It's all Google.
Breaking them up could mean focusing on this behind the scenes bit.
But even breaking up the public facing parts of the business would weaken their hold on the advertising market. At the the least takes some seller space away from them, but also weakens the amount of data they have to offer in the buyer tools.

I don't know what "breaking them up could mean focusing on this behind the scenes bit"  means.

Why do you want to weaken their hold on the advertising market?  They're a near monopoly in search, not in advertising.

Come on. That's playing too dumb. You don't know what I mean by behind the scenes when I specifically mention it in a paragraph about advertising?

They absolutely do have a monopoly in parts of advertising on a par with their search dominance. Something like 90% of ads flow through their server.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josquius on Today at 03:59:01 AMCome on. That's playing too dumb. You don't know what I mean by behind the scenes when I specifically mention it in a paragraph about advertising?

They absolutely do have a monopoly in parts of advertising on a par with their search dominance. Something like 90% of ads flow through their server.

I can infer that behind the scenes means all the activities Google engages in apart from the directly consumer facing aspects.  I don't understand focus.  Who is supposed to focus?  What will their focus result in?  I don't understand the relationship between focus and breaking up the company.  Will more attention be paid to their back room shenanigans once they are broken up?  Will breaking them up make it harder to hide their back room shenanigans?

Google has a monopoly on advertising on their site to the exact same extent the owner of a single billboard does.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:29:32 AM
Quote from: Josquius on Today at 02:07:40 AMVertical integration is where the same company owns multiple steps of the supply chain.
A company which owns the farm, the factory, and the supermarket.
In Googles case they own absolutely everything around advertising. Buyer software, seller, exchange.... It's all Google.
Breaking them up could mean focusing on this behind the scenes bit.
But even breaking up the public facing parts of the business would weaken their hold on the advertising market. At the the least takes some seller space away from them, but also weakens the amount of data they have to offer in the buyer tools.

I don't know what "breaking them up could mean focusing on this behind the scenes bit"  means.

Why do you want to weaken their hold on the advertising market?  They're a near monopoly in search, not in advertising.

The early 2000s are calling and they want their understanding of how google works back.
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