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Started by mongers, April 02, 2023, 07:22:44 PM

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garbon

Quote from: Tamas on September 28, 2023, 11:48:19 PMThe article stipulates the reason why the media was pushing for gossip on this was because it is the sports media and is made of hetero males. The premise that the bedrock of the celebrity gossip market is demand for it by heterosexual men is ludicrous and destroys any point thr article is trying to make.

That is not a fair summary.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2023, 11:46:32 PMIs the article saying that Swift normally doesn't put her love life to the press, but that her new boyfriend and the sports press are running with a lot of "look at sport-bro banging this super hot famous chick"?

Yes
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

To be clear, I think the argument in that article is an overreach, essentially using this pop culture moment to build what sounds like a well trodden path for that author.

But nevertheless, I'm shocked on the defensive posturing it elicited along the vein that queers are bashing  heteros.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

For the record all I sakd was that the author was bashing hetero males. I had no idea (and even less interest) they were "queer"

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2023, 11:46:32 PMIs the article saying that Swift normally doesn't put her love life to the press, but that her new boyfriend and the sports press are running with a lot of "look at sport-bro banging this super hot famous chick"?

That and Jason Kelce stalked her.

Him and his brother have a regular podcast if you want a quick scan on his persona.

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on September 29, 2023, 03:40:00 AMFor the record all I sakd was that the author was bashing hetero males. I had no idea (and even less interest) they were "queer"

Quoteauthor thinks rumours about celebrity relationships (hetero ones, yuck!)

Then what was this?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

What this is a test case for toxic masculinity.

garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2023, 04:00:55 AMWhat this is a test case for toxic masculinity.

I'd agree that's the author's approach.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on September 29, 2023, 04:00:11 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 29, 2023, 03:40:00 AMFor the record all I sakd was that the author was bashing hetero males. I had no idea (and even less interest) they were "queer"

Quoteauthor thinks rumours about celebrity relationships (hetero ones, yuck!)

Then what was this?

A jab at the article's attitude, not at the author's self-declared identity, which, again, I was not aware of and did not seek to confirm before formulating my opinion on the piece they wrote.

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on September 29, 2023, 04:11:50 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 29, 2023, 04:00:11 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 29, 2023, 03:40:00 AMFor the record all I sakd was that the author was bashing hetero males. I had no idea (and even less interest) they were "queer"

Quoteauthor thinks rumours about celebrity relationships (hetero ones, yuck!)

Then what was this?

A jab at the article's attitude, not at the author's self-declared identity, which, again, I was not aware of and did not seek to confirm before formulating my opinion on the piece they wrote.

Alright, I take you at your word. Did seem strange that you felt it was attack hetero relationships when that wasn't written.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Grey Fox

Quote from: garbon on September 28, 2023, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 28, 2023, 08:31:14 PMI am not reading the article, being made fun of because I am not queer is not something I enjoy.

Same question to you that I asked Tamas. But perhaps even more inquisitively as I'm not sure how the author was making fun of you for not being gay. In fact, what has led you to such a defensive conclusion?

Sav's last sentence and Tamas posts. I might be wrong, I didn't read the article.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

garbon

Quote from: Grey Fox on September 29, 2023, 05:06:21 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 28, 2023, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 28, 2023, 08:31:14 PMI am not reading the article, being made fun of because I am not queer is not something I enjoy.

Same question to you that I asked Tamas. But perhaps even more inquisitively as I'm not sure how the author was making fun of you for not being gay. In fact, what has led you to such a defensive conclusion?

Sav's last sentence and Tamas posts. I might be wrong, I didn't read the article.

So maybe we shouldn't be quick to jump to concerns that heteros are under seige, no? ;)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Grey Fox

Sure we can. Inability of avoiding trauma and other cause of ache is why we need to create all sorts of safe space every where.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

garbon

Quote from: Grey Fox on September 29, 2023, 05:19:49 AMSure we can. Inability of avoiding trauma and other cause of ache is why we need to create all sorts of safe space every where.

Say what?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: garbon on September 29, 2023, 05:22:07 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 29, 2023, 05:19:49 AMSure we can. Inability of avoiding trauma and other cause of ache is why we need to create all sorts of safe space every where.

Say what?

"What"
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"