India Arie shares videos of Joe Rogan using N-word

[Habbaku]

Good luck, DG, I give up.

[Eddie Teach]

It's disappointing to observe the erosion of willingness and/or ability to discuss issues.  I don't think it furthers the cause of good guys.

We are aging bastards getting set in our ways. Languish of 18 years ago would have debated this for 200 pages.

Yeah, but there would have been like 4-5 times as many unique voices weighing in.

[Valmy]

It's disappointing to observe the erosion of willingness and/or ability to discuss issues.  I don't think it furthers the cause of good guys.

We are aging bastards getting set in our ways. Languish of 18 years ago would have debated this for 200 pages.

Yeah, but there would have been like 4-5 times as many unique voices weighing in.

True. Message boards were just a cooler place to be back then.

[Razgovory]

I have hard time caring about things anymore.  The best I can do is make a few jokes now and then.

[crazy canuck]

Good luck garbon, I give up.

I think we are supposed to enter Languish leaving everything we know about the world at the door.

We definitely need a subtitle for this forum - abandon all hope ye who enter here

[Josquius]

In the time frame of a little less then 6 months, a variety of well known American celebrities (many of whome were white) said the n-word well over 300 times. It was, in fact, routine. They said it over, and over and over again.

They were, at the time, filming Django Unchained, and the film as released used the term over 100 times.

Tarantino caught some flack for his use of the word in his scripts, and he had caught some flack for its use in previous scripts as well (Pulp Fiction, notably).

How should we feel about it's use in that context? Would it be reasonable to put together a twitter video of each time Leonardo Dicaprio said the word in that movie, or Christopher Waltz, or Jamie Foxx, or Samuel L. Jackson, and then if someone asks respond that context does not in fact matter, the simple act of saying the word is damnation enough?

How would you feel if over a similar time frame a bunch of well known celebrities repeatedly talked about how much they hate Jews and want to kill them all-because they're making a film about the nazis.

Someone expressing opinion and acting is clearly different.

[Duque de Bragança]

Good luck garbon, I give up.

I think we are supposed to enter Languish leaving everything we know about the world at the door.

We definitely need a subtitle for this forum - Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate

[The Larch]

It's disappointing to observe the erosion of willingness and/or ability to discuss issues.  I don't think it furthers the cause of good guys.

We are aging bastards getting set in our ways. Languish of 18 years ago would have debated this for 200 pages.

Disagree. I think that we just know each other too well and know when there's a point in arguing and when there's not.

[Syt]

It's disappointing to observe the erosion of willingness and/or ability to discuss issues.  I don't think it furthers the cause of good guys.

We are aging bastards getting set in our ways. Languish of 18 years ago would have debated this for 200 pages.

Disagree. I think that we just know each other too well and know when there's a point in arguing and when there's not.

Why do you think most of my activity is in the Star Wars thread? I often read a story, consider posting it on Languish, and then think, "nah", because I kinda know who will react now, and it feels superfluous at that point.

[The Larch]

It's disappointing to observe the erosion of willingness and/or ability to discuss issues.  I don't think it furthers the cause of good guys.

We are aging bastards getting set in our ways. Languish of 18 years ago would have debated this for 200 pages.

Disagree. I think that we just know each other too well and know when there's a point in arguing and when there's not.

Why do you think most of my activity is in the Star Wars thread? I often read a story, consider posting it on Languish, and then think, "nah", because I kinda know who will react now, and it feels superfluous at that point.

Yeah, that's also why I keep myself mostly to inocuous threads, as the controversial ones tend to make me regret taking part in them. 

[mongers]

It's disappointing to observe the erosion of willingness and/or ability to discuss issues.  I don't think it furthers the cause of good guys.

We are aging bastards getting set in our ways. Languish of 18 years ago would have debated this for 200 pages.

Disagree. I think that we just know each other too well and know when there's a point in arguing and when there's not.

Why do you think most of my activity is in the Star Wars thread? I often read a story, consider posting it on Languish, and then think, "nah", because I kinda know who will react now, and it feels superfluous at that point.

Syt, that's pretty much my view, though often I'll also think 'I've probably posted a thread about this before, but have forgotten' so I don't start it. 

[Josquius]

It's so much effort. Copy paste. Snip out the ads....

So very tired....

[Berkut]

In the time frame of a little less then 6 months, a variety of well known American celebrities (many of whome were white) said the n-word well over 300 times. It was, in fact, routine. They said it over, and over and over again.

They were, at the time, filming Django Unchained, and the film as released used the term over 100 times.

Tarantino caught some flack for his use of the word in his scripts, and he had caught some flack for its use in previous scripts as well (Pulp Fiction, notably).

How should we feel about it's use in that context? Would it be reasonable to put together a twitter video of each time Leonardo Dicaprio said the word in that movie, or Christopher Waltz, or Jamie Foxx, or Samuel L. Jackson, and then if someone asks respond that context does not in fact matter, the simple act of saying the word is damnation enough?

How would you feel if over a similar time frame a bunch of well known celebrities repeatedly talked about how much they hate Jews and want to kill them all-because they're making a film about the nazis.

Someone expressing opinion and acting is clearly different.

Exactly. They are in fact clearly different.

That difference? It is called "context".

[Admiral Yi]

In the time frame of a little less then 6 months, a variety of well known American celebrities (many of whome were white) said the n-word well over 300 times. It was, in fact, routine. They said it over, and over and over again.

They were, at the time, filming Django Unchained, and the film as released used the term over 100 times.

Tarantino caught some flack for his use of the word in his scripts, and he had caught some flack for its use in previous scripts as well (Pulp Fiction, notably).

How should we feel about it's use in that context? Would it be reasonable to put together a twitter video of each time Leonardo Dicaprio said the word in that movie, or Christopher Waltz, or Jamie Foxx, or Samuel L. Jackson, and then if someone asks respond that context does not in fact matter, the simple act of saying the word is damnation enough?

How would you feel if over a similar time frame a bunch of well known celebrities repeatedly talked about how much they hate Jews and want to kill them all-because they're making a film about the nazis.

Someone expressing opinion and acting is clearly different.

How does this have anything to do with what we're talking about?

We're talking about Joe Rogan saying "nigger" either on his podcast or a comedy show.  That is not action, and since his statements have been decontextualized we don't know what opinion he was expressing.

[DGuller]

Disagree. I think that we just know each other too well and know when there's a point in arguing and when there's not.

I suspect that sometimes people know not to argue because they know their views won't hold up to detailed discussion, but they want to hold on to them anyway.  The reason I suspect that is that some people do enter the discussion, but have a tendency to leave with a nasty parting statement when it doesn't go their way.  It's understandable if people leave the discussion due to abuse leveled at them, but often times the only sign of abuse is the willingness to defend a take they disagree with.