Electric cars

[Threviel]

https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html has a long series of blog posts on Musk and his endavours. It's old by now, but when I read it back in the day I was totally convinced on the advantages of an electric car. It's taken until now for them to get down enough in price to actually consider one.

This was before Musk went a bit on the insane side.

[Berkut]

We could use a lot more insane people, apparently.

[HVC]

You should definitely make sure to consider the persona of the person who manages the company you purchase a new car from, for sure.

Buy any My Pillow's lately?

[Berkut]

You should definitely make sure to consider the persona of the person who manages the company you purchase a new car from, for sure.

Buy any My Pillow's lately?

Cannot say that I have.

[Admiral Yi]

Because he has skin in the game hah

[Grey Fox]

Americans

[Grey Fox]

Ioniq also looks nice, but is also in the 50k range rather than the 40k range.

https://alltomelbil.se/jamfor-elbilar/ are the available cars in Sweden. Sorting by "Pris/Räckvidd" sorts by price/range, how many SEK you have to spend for every km of range. 10 SEK is almost exactly 1€. The competition seems to be between Kona, E-soul and ZS EV.

Here, in Quebec, the cheaper all electric cars are the VW e-golf followed by the Chevy Bolt. Both sell for around 26k$ after 13k in governments rebates.

[mongers]

Coincidentally, I'm seriously considering an electric vehicle.. an electric bike.

What's putting me the idea isn't the technology, it's nearly there in terms of performance, but given the cost it, the buying experience will be akin to getting a vehicle rather than just a bicycle.   

[viper37]

Ioniq also looks nice, but is also in the 50k range rather than the 40k range.

https://alltomelbil.se/jamfor-elbilar/ are the available cars in Sweden. Sorting by "Pris/Räckvidd" sorts by price/range, how many SEK you have to spend for every km of range. 10 SEK is almost exactly 1€. The competition seems to be between Kona, E-soul and ZS EV.

Here, in Quebec, the cheaper all electric cars are the VW e-golf followed by the Chevy Bolt. Both sell for around 26k$ after 13k in governments rebates.

You forgot that 14,975% sales tax.
GM's site gives me 770$/month with taxes and interests for 5 years.  You're in the range of a luxury car, for something very cheaply built.

[Zanza]

Coincidentally, I'm seriously considering an electric vehicle.. an electric bike.

What's putting me the idea isn't the technology, it's nearly there in terms of performance, but given the cost it, the buying experience will be akin to getting a vehicle rather than just a bicycle.   

How is the technology for electric bikes "not there in terms of performance "?

[Syt]

I'm a very unsporty person, but I was doing fine taking an electric bike through the Styrian hills for hours with no issues. Granted, the bike model cost around 2000 EUR (according to the guys we rented from), but that was a few years ago, so prices might be different.

[Grey Fox]

Ioniq also looks nice, but is also in the 50k range rather than the 40k range.

https://alltomelbil.se/jamfor-elbilar/ are the available cars in Sweden. Sorting by "Pris/Räckvidd" sorts by price/range, how many SEK you have to spend for every km of range. 10 SEK is almost exactly 1€. The competition seems to be between Kona, E-soul and ZS EV.

Here, in Quebec, the cheaper all electric cars are the VW e-golf followed by the Chevy Bolt. Both sell for around 26k$ after 13k in governments rebates.

You forgot that 14,975% sales tax.
GM's site gives me 770$/month with taxes and interests for 5 years.  You're in the range of a luxury car, for something very cheaply built.

Got my figured from www.roulonselectrique.ca They are low, since they don't include anything like taxes, fees or options. Annoying.

[Josquius]

Coincidentally, I'm seriously considering an electric vehicle.. an electric bike.

What's putting me the idea isn't the technology, it's nearly there in terms of performance, but given the cost it, the buying experience will be akin to getting a vehicle rather than just a bicycle.   

I planned to get one last year but they were impossible to get. Came close again in summer but job switching interrupted this.
They're... OK. I can't help but feel a bit cheated that in the UK they can't go fully automated - when I test rode one I purposefully stopped on a steep hill and tried to get going again. It was just as much a disaster as doing this on a normal bike.
I definitely felt a difference on reasonably flat terrain but it's subtle. The price is high, £2000 even for the cheapest.

[Gups]

Coincidentally, I'm seriously considering an electric vehicle.. an electric bike.

What's putting me the idea isn't the technology, it's nearly there in terms of performance, but given the cost it, the buying experience will be akin to getting a vehicle rather than just a bicycle.   

I planned to get one last year but they were impossible to get. Came close again in summer but job switching interrupted this.
They're... OK. I can't help but feel a bit cheated that in the UK they can't go fully automated - when I test rode one I purposefully stopped on a steep hill and tried to get going again. It was just as much a disaster as doing this on a normal bike.
I definitely felt a difference on reasonably flat terrain but it's subtle. The price is high, £2000 even for the cheapest.

You can get electric bikes for much less than that, but will need to spend £1,000 for anything half decent. Carrera Subway is meant to be the best at that price point.

[viper37]

Ioniq also looks nice, but is also in the 50k range rather than the 40k range.

https://alltomelbil.se/jamfor-elbilar/ are the available cars in Sweden. Sorting by "Pris/Räckvidd" sorts by price/range, how many SEK you have to spend for every km of range. 10 SEK is almost exactly 1€. The competition seems to be between Kona, E-soul and ZS EV.

Here, in Quebec, the cheaper all electric cars are the VW e-golf followed by the Chevy Bolt. Both sell for around 26k$ after 13k in governments rebates.

You forgot that 14,975% sales tax.
GM's site gives me 770$/month with taxes and interests for 5 years.  You're in the range of a luxury car, for something very cheaply built.

Got my figured from www.roulonselectrique.ca They are low, since they don't include anything like taxes, fees or options. Annoying.

Financing is around 5-7% these days.  That's a lot compared to the 0%-2% rates of a few years ago.

I think, maybe, the GM site does not factor in the govt help in their monthly price, it seems quite high.  In any case, it's still a lot of money for a small car.