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[Syt]

wanna cyber

[garbon]

Cybersex?

[Sheilbh]

Cyberbullying?

[The Brain]

What happened to Cyberia btw?

[Threviel]

Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that the designs will be based on Astutes rather than the Virginias? The Astutes seem cheaper to build and man and would presumably be the better choice for a smaller navy?

[Duque de Bragança]

Last arms deal upset of this magnitude I remember of, was the helicopter deal with Poland, cancelled when the potato twin party and its allies assumed power, and went for an "Atlantist" solution.

PS: quite a hit for the small normand city of Cherbourg (30,000 people).
According to Le Monde, New Zealand, ally of Australia already said that nuclear submarines won't be allowed to visit its ports or even NZ waters. A policy decision dating from 1985.

[Grey Fox]

Duque, none of these Rest of the World people will know who you mean by Potato Twin.

Good one, tho.

[Maximus]

Who on languish doesn't know who the potato twins were?

[Jacob]

Duque, none of these Rest of the World people will know who you mean by Potato Twin.

Good one, tho.

It's easier to understand than your typical Yi-ism.

[Barrister]

So the obvious question from this part of the world is why wasn't Canada involved.  I mean - we're a pacific nation, we have conflicts with China, we have long-standing ties to all three countries...

Three options come to mind:

1. This is largely about nuclear subs.  Canada does not have nuclear subs, and no plans to build new subs.
2. We have an election going on, so they don't want to interfere
3. They just don't trust us.

[Grey Fox]

We have 2 submarines.

We're the surface navy partner if anything.

[The Brain]

Last arms deal upset of this magnitude I remember of, was the helicopter deal with Poland, cancelled when the potato twin party and its allies assumed power, and went for an "Atlantist" solution.

PS: quite a hit for the small normand city of Cherbourg (30,000 people).
According to Le Monde, New Zealand, ally of Australia already said that nuclear submarines won't be allowed to visit its ports or even NZ waters. A policy decision dating from 1985.

FWIW I don't think they plan to invade NZ.

[Sheilbh]

So the obvious question from this part of the world is why wasn't Canada involved.  I mean - we're a pacific nation, we have conflicts with China, we have long-standing ties to all three countries...

Three options come to mind:

1. This is largely about nuclear subs.  Canada does not have nuclear subs, and no plans to build new subs.
2. We have an election going on, so they don't want to interfere
3. They just don't trust us.

My guess is number 2. From a UK perspective I'm not sure it would be considered acceptable for a government to agree to or announce something like this during an election campaign - generally major decisions on policy have to be postponed until a new government has formed but I don't know if there's the same tradition in Canada.

It has been striking over the last year that Australia, Canada and the UK have issued so many joint statements on issues around China (but also Belarus, Armenia etc) - so I think they're clearly aligned which was particularly noteworthy while Trump was still in office. I think there is an emerging difference with New Zealand - and obviously they don't let nuclear subs in their waters. But I wouldn't be surprised if Canada joined that agreement.

[Syt]

So the obvious question from this part of the world is why wasn't Canada involved.  I mean - we're a pacific nation, we have conflicts with China, we have long-standing ties to all three countries...

Three options come to mind:

1. This is largely about nuclear subs.  Canada does not have nuclear subs, and no plans to build new subs.
2. We have an election going on, so they don't want to interfere
3. They just don't trust us.

4. They forgot.

[Barrister]

We have 2 submarines.

We're the surface navy partner if anything.

But not nuclear submarines.

In one way this can just be seen as a transfer of nuclear sub tech from US/UK to Aus.  Canada has nothing to contribute in such a transaction.