Refractory Gauls, or the French politics thread

[viper37]

'Using the violent video game strawman, 5 or 6 hours a day killing people, leading to a predory logic conditions people', or so he claims.
Macron has a history of blaming video games; a previous attempt was the one using video games as a cause for suburban (banlieue) rioting.

If a youth spend 5 or 6 hours every day in front of a screen, no matter what he/she does, there might lie the problem.

Adults may need to work, 11-12 years old aren't supposed to be on their tablets for this long, or playing Roblox.

Edit: tablets

[Valmy]

Adults may need to work, 11-12 years old aren't supposed to be on their tables for this long, or playing Roblox.

My daughter spends hours a day making the most bizarre surreal videos on her tablet in Roblox every day. I swear to God if this was the 1960s these would be considered pychodelic modern art. I don't know man. I am just happy she is out there making weird shit and being creative. Also in my experience kids move on from tablets and Roblox well before age 11. That shit is for little kids.

I will leave the pearl clutching for others. OH MY GOD!!! MY CHILD IS DOING THINGS COMPLETLY TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE HER AGE!!!111

The pattern seems to always be: kids do a thing. A few kids turn out bad. So therefore the things that all the kids are doing must be responsible...yeah that makes sense. Was there some generation in the past where none of the kids turned out bad?

Having said that Roblox fucking sucks and the company running it is evil so I wont miss it when my daughter ourgrows it.

[Tamas]

I am with you, Valmy. Computer games, RPGs... Our generation had this same shit going on.

Before ours it was rock music and long hair.

[viper37]

Adults may need to work, 11-12 years old aren't supposed to be on their tables for this long, or playing Roblox.

My daughter spends hours a day making the most bizarre surreal videos on her tablet in Roblox every day. I swear to God if this was the 1960s these would be considered pychodelic modern art. I don't know man. I am just happy she is out there making weird shit and being creative. Also in my experience kids move on from tablets and Roblox well before age 11. That shit is for little kids.

I will leave the pearl clutching for others. OH MY GOD!!! MY CHILD IS DOING THINGS COMPLETLY TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE HER AGE!!!111

The pattern seems to always be: kids do a thing. A few kids turn out bad. So therefore the things that all the kids are doing must be responsible...yeah that makes sense. Was there some generation in the past where none of the kids turned out bad?

Having said that Roblox fucking sucks and the company running it is evil so I wont miss it when my daughter ourgrows it.

Nephews are 11-12, they're still asking for Roblox gift cards.

Anyway.

The point is not to spend too much time on screens.  There's a place for sports, outdoor activities, even a little chores.

[Jacob]

My daughter spends hours a day making the most bizarre surreal videos on her tablet in Roblox every day. I swear to God if this was the 1960s these would be considered pychodelic modern art. I don't know man. I am just happy she is out there making weird shit and being creative. Also in my experience kids move on from tablets and Roblox well before age 11. That shit is for little kids.

I will leave the pearl clutching for others. OH MY GOD!!! MY CHILD IS DOING THINGS COMPLETLY TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE HER AGE!!!111

The pattern seems to always be: kids do a thing. A few kids turn out bad. So therefore the things that all the kids are doing must be responsible...yeah that makes sense. Was there some generation in the past where none of the kids turned out bad?

Having said that Roblox fucking sucks and the company running it is evil so I wont miss it when my daughter ourgrows it.

The problem with Roblox is not "MY CHILD IS DOING THINGS COMPLETELY TYPICAL FOR THEIR AGE!", it's the deliberate nurturing of gambling addictions and the lousy curation of methods for internet strangers to communicate with children unsupervised.

As Tamas says, it's "nothing we didn't do" - but IMO the equivalent is not "listening to heavy metal" but "hanging out at the 7-11 parking lot every day with random groups of  older strangers, some of whom are very free with illicit substances." Sure, lots of kids in my generation did that, and many of them turned out more or less okay - but some bad things went down on occasion too.

If feel you have your daughter's interaction with Roblox controlled under acceptable parameters, that's great. Maybe she's just doing creative things, not being groomed to desire special currency, and only hanging out with non-problematic people (or even better, has developed enough of a filter for online strangers to handle problematic people well).

Personally, I've worked in free-to-play social and mobile games enough to see how Roblox is built from the ground up around the creation of addiction. I have friends who worked at Roblox for a period of time, and what they've shared has done nothing to allay my concerns - seeing child predators as an opportunity, as  Baszucki put it, is not a random weird comment but something fundamental to the entire operation from my perspective.

I stand by my assessment that Roblox is poison, and I'm keeping my kids far away from it.

[viper37]

I am with you, Valmy. Computer games, RPGs... Our generation had this same shit going on.

Before ours it was rock music and long hair.

I was driving a tractor, a truck, a forklift, picking rocks, gardening potatoes, lawnmowing, paying for my first computer in 4th grade by installing door knobs in an apartment building, getting in trouble with my ATV and the police, typical stuff we all used to do at that age around here, basically.

It's not about killing people, it's about having more than one activity.