Tax avoidance by the obscenely wealthy

[Valmy]

Estate tax is double taxation.

So is sales tax, so what?

So it is less than ethical and you should not do it

Should people not pay income tax if they are paid by a corporation that already paid corporate tax on their profits? I mean the heirs have never paid tax on that money, so where is the double taxation going on?

It strikes me that it is very hard to find any taxation on any bit of money that has not been previously taxed in a previous transaction.

[Barrister]

Charities aren't well defined and aren't well vetted (consider the Trump Foundation).

The Trump Foundation that was vetted and closed?  Not a good example.

The Trump Foundation is the exception that proves the rule.  It's actions were so far from any charitable purpose, so outrageous in it's self-serving behaviour - yet it took Trump becoming President and having the world's biggest target on his back to have it shut down.

[Berkut]

Charities aren't well defined and aren't well vetted (consider the Trump Foundation).

The Trump Foundation that was vetted and closed?  Not a good example.

The Trump Foundation is the exception that proves the rule.  It's actions were so far from any charitable purpose, so outrageous in it's self-serving behaviour - yet it took Trump becoming President and having the world's biggest target on his back to have it shut down.

It is bizarre to see a prosecutor argue that we cannot restrict people from doing things because they might break the rules.

[grumbler]

Charities aren't well defined and aren't well vetted (consider the Trump Foundation).

The Trump Foundation that was vetted and closed?  Not a good example.

The Trump Foundation is the exception that proves the rule.  It's actions were so far from any charitable purpose, so outrageous in it's self-serving behaviour - yet it took Trump becoming President and having the world's biggest target on his back to have it shut down.

Ah, the old "correlation = causation" fallacy.  I would have thought a prosecutor would be especially sensitive to its abuse.

Remember the First Rule of Holes.

[PDH]

Remember the First Rule of Holes.

You don't pay 'em they get upset?

[Eddie Teach]

You don't talk about Holes.

[Barrister]

Charities aren't well defined and aren't well vetted (consider the Trump Foundation).

The Trump Foundation that was vetted and closed?  Not a good example.

The Trump Foundation is the exception that proves the rule.  It's actions were so far from any charitable purpose, so outrageous in it's self-serving behaviour - yet it took Trump becoming President and having the world's biggest target on his back to have it shut down.

Ah, the old "correlation = causation" fallacy.  I would have thought a prosecutor would be especially sensitive to its abuse.

Remember the First Rule of Holes.

Yeah, I think I'm done trying to have substantive debates here.

Not leaving - there's the odd bit of personal info to share, or pop culture talk, but serious political debates?  I'm over it.

[Valmy]

Because of grumbler? Really?

[Admiral Yi]

That's crazy talk Beeb.

[Eddie Teach]

About 10 or 15 years too late, if you ask me. 

[Barrister]

Because of grumbler? Really?

Long time coming.

[HVC]

BB had a rough week here. Take some time to breath and remember the posters you should ignore. It helps.

[Tamas]

Grumbler is a poor choice for a last straw, B. 

[grumbler]

Ah, the old "correlation = causation" fallacy.  I would have thought a prosecutor would be especially sensitive to its abuse.

Remember the First Rule of Holes.

Yeah, I think I'm done trying to have substantive debates here.

Not leaving - there's the odd bit of personal info to share, or pop culture talk, but serious political debates?  I'm over it.

If that's all it takes to trigger you, maybe you should take a break.

[grumbler]

Grumbler is a poor choice for a last straw, B. 

Listen to the man.  At least choose someone who engages in ad homs or strawman arguments, or red herrings as your last straw.