South Carolina Law Makes Death Row Inmates Pick: Firing Squad Or Electric Chair?

[alfred russel]

Both seem horrible ways to die 

Better than the cancer etc. that most of us face.

A lot of people are under delusions that natural deaths like heart attacks aren't so bad. In some cases, that may be true. But I've seen people having heart attacks desperately fighting for breath as their lungs fill with fluid. Doesn't seem especially pleasant.

[HVC]

if you're going to gas deathrow inmates why not use CO2?

[Barrister]

In related news....

Arizona Prepares to Use Auschwitz Gas Zyklon B on Death Row Inmates

https://www.newsweek.com/auschwitz-gas-zyklon-b-arizona-death-row-inmates-1596402

See, this article is just scaremongering.

Zyclon-B was just the trade name of hydrogen cyanide.  It's an incredibly basic molecule, comprised of a hydrogen, a carbon, and a nitrogen atom.

Whether or not it is a humane and effective chemical to use in executions is one thing.  But to immediately link it to the holocaust is like saying that bullets are the same method of killing people as the nazis used.

[Jacob]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

[The Minsky Moment]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

The Nazis were also made up of hydrogen, carbon and oxygen atoms. Don't understand why people get into such a twist about them - atomically-speaking they were pretty much the same as anyone else.

[Admiral Yi]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Gas chamber has been a pretty normal method of execution.

[Valmy]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Gas chamber has been a pretty normal method of execution.

I hear it has been used millions of times.

[Barrister]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Gas chamber has been a pretty normal method of execution.

What Yi said.  Gas chamber has been used in the US for a long time.  Quick googling suggests it was first used in 1924.

You can criticize the method all you want - it's not a subject I'm super familiar with.  But I don't think you need to bring the Nazis into it - nor the name Zyklon B.  Because unlike the Nazis the US is only using it after a full judicial process with various rights of appeal - not to indiscriminately murder people because of their religion or ethnic background.

[grumbler]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Nah, there must have been a lot of countries that gassed people to death with hydrogen cyanide besides the Nazis.  And I'm sure Beeb is going to list them to prove his point that doing so is no big deal, even for the Nazis.

[grumbler]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Gas chamber has been a pretty normal method of execution.

Not in the US.  It's ben 22 years since the gas chamber was used in the US, and the USSC has made the restrictions on it use "humanely" so onerous that no state nor the federal government has been willing to try to meet them.  I doubt that Arizona will, either.  This is just red meat for the republican base.

[alfred russel]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

The Nazis also hanged people with piano wire. Will you draw parallels with the Nazis if South Carolina implements that method of execution? What cool methods of execution are left to the South Carolinians?

[Valmy]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Gas chamber has been a pretty normal method of execution.

Not in the US.  It's ben 22 years since the gas chamber was used in the US, and the USSC has made the restrictions on it use "humanely" so onerous that no state nor the federal government has been willing to try to meet them.  I doubt that Arizona will, either.  This is just red meat for the republican base.

Completely pointless culture war laws are the new blue laws.

[Oexmelin]

Take your politics out of my death penalty.

[Tonitrus]

Jesus fucking Christ Beeb.

They're gassing people. It is completely appropriate to draw parallels to the Nazis.

Gas chamber has been a pretty normal method of execution.

What Yi said.  Gas chamber has been used in the US for a long time.  Quick googling suggests it was first used in 1924.

You can criticize the method all you want - it's not a subject I'm super familiar with.  But I don't think you need to bring the Nazis into it - nor the name Zyklon B.  Because unlike the Nazis the US is only using it after a full judicial process with various rights of appeal - not to indiscriminately murder people because of their religion or ethnic background.

The swastika was used innocuously for thousands of years, and now, in the West at least, it cannot be used innocuously.

Sometimes, perception IS everything.

[The Brain]

Being a vegetarian is social suicide in the West.